Western Governors University Reviews
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I speak as a alumni of Western Governors University, having earning a masters in business administration in just over five months. I'm presently working on a second graduate degree with them and wanted to share some of my broader observations with the general internet. The good: - The price is great. - They are accredited. - They do allow acceleration mostly. - They're all online. The bad - The graders often don't have backgrounds in what they're evaluating. This creates a number of problems. - The graders have indicated in their responses that they haven't read my paper, but issue a grade anyway. - The graders don't even pretend to adhere to a uniform standard. It's amazing to watch how others will put in very little effort, and it sails through. Others will work extensively and make an objectively better response, but it gets rejected. - Rejections often don't make sense. They'll pick a random, arbitrary reason why. When you step back and think about it, you could continue to find fault with any paper as long as you wanted. Even if there's no there "there", just continuing to say it's insufficient and provide no reason. What's to stop you? Apparently nobody stops the graders at Western Governors, and even an appeal will net you nothing. - My impression is that they're trying to guard the strength of their degrees and only giving them to people who are willing to rewrite papers several times. Not a great way of actually determining competency. - Appeals are worthless. They never addressed the core issue I questioned them on. When I asked an appeals person directly why my work wasn't even evaluated as indicated in the grader's response, they danced around the question. They'll stand behind their graders. - The course mentors are disconnected from graders. This is arguably the worst part about it. Course mentors, a.k.a. the people that know the stuff the class is about, are powerless. Reiterated, the person that understand the material can't influence the person who doesn't understand the material and is in charge of your grade that the response is sufficient. The ugly - Once a grader asked me to include a graph of a simulation that didn't exist. It wasn't asked for in the question prompt. I filed an appeal, and they said I could have made it from Excel. OOPS, wrong again! Some of the data required to manually make the graph wasn't any where to be found either. That's probably why it wasn't asked for geniuses! My next submission included a statement say such in all caps on that writing prompt. Then it passed. - Another grader said instead of analyzing a single round in a simulation as indicated by the requirements, that all 8 rounds needed to be evaluated. I filed an appeal, and the appeal predictably stood behind their grader. The course mentor responded to the graders and said that wasn't in the instructions. It took hours and hours to resolve this. I had to be the driver for this because it wouldn't have worked itself out. It ate an obscene amount of my time. - To further illustrate the non-uniformity of their standards, I've had multiple course mentors explain to me, including ECare themselves, that if I opt for an appeal, I could have work that was approved come back as disapproved. How much sense does that make? You passed the test! Oh, just kidding! Sounds like a great, accurate, precise setup, right? - Finally, they have different avenues to communicate, like web forums. I started venting some frustration at the graders and the process, and the course mentor decided an appropriate response would be to attempt to curtail my 1st amendment. I wasn't swearing, saying anything offensive, trolling, or criticizing any individual person. If they're too thin skinned to even allow general criticism of the process and results among the students, what does that mean? Why so touchy? In the end, I have a real love/hate relationship with the school. The idea of competency based learning is liberating. It makes so much sense. It is just so bitterly disappointing that Western Governors University does such a poor job at implementing the idea.
I dragged my feet about going back to school for 10 years. With kids and a high-pressure career, it sounded daunting and the thought of dropping $30k...it just didn't make sense. But I finally committed and finished my MBA in a year and it cost me less than $7k through WGU! I worked my butt off to make $150k+ per year and know that an equivalent job will likely require an MBA. There is security in knowing that when/if that day comes that I have to compete for a position at another company, I won't be disqualified because I am missing three letters behind my name. If you have the mentality that you are capable of doing anything you set your mind to, you can do this and I highly recommend that you do!
College work online is very flexible. I am 50% of the way through, and so far so good. I am very pleased with the online experience, the cost, and education experience. At the collegiate level of nursing (BSN, MSN) no one cares where you obtained your degree, only that you received it. It does not make sense to pay thousands of extra dollars on an MSN, when an excellent program that is inexpensive is at your fingertips!
Excellent school with an excellent model! I went straight from WGU’s BS course of study to their MBA program and it paid off big, I am now in upper management as a direct result of my academic accomplishments. The university mentors were amazing, the curriculum was tough but well laid-out and I loved the work at your own pace model. I have recommended this school to a lot of people and they are all on their way to graduating either with a BS or an MBA.
This school is regionally accredited and very affordable. I appreciate the move-at-your-own-pace aspect of this institution. For the IT program, almost all of the upper division courses involve you doing online training and then taking a Certification Exam. If you pass the Certification Exam, you pass the course and you have one class down and another Certification under your belt. There is no homework and everything is Pass/Fail. You either complete the course or you don't, so if you're looking for a GPA to be proud of, that will not be possible at WGU. There are some down-sides as well. You have to speak to a 'Student Mentor' on the phone once every week to give status updates. If you miss too many calls, they will suspend your status at the school until you get that fixed. After the first term, you may be able to switch to every two weeks, but that is still very annoying. Additionally, if the end of the term is approaching, you cannot enroll in any new courses. Terms are six months long, so if it's nearing the end of your fifth month in the term and you want to enroll in a new course, your Mentor will likely not allow it. This is because you cannot take a course that spans multiple terms. This is quite frustrating considering that continual enrollment is required and it's supposed to be move-at-your-own-pace. This aspect puts a damper on things near the ends of your terms.
I don't know that I would ever have gotten my degree without WGU! The competency-based curriculum and flexible schedule/pace sealed the deal for me. The fact that the tuition was much lower than other universities was a huge selling point as well. It was great to have a mentor check in on me every week to see how I was doing, and there were always tutors available when I needed extra help.
There are fallacies with every school, you just need to find the one with the least amount for your personality. CREDITS / CLASS: So yeah, WGU has a weird credit system, 6 credit classes that I can literally study 1 night and pass the test while there are some 3 credit classes that take me 2 weeks. But it balances itself out in in the long run if you think about it. MENTORS: I had a mentor I didn't get along with and requested another, Boom! just like that I was given the worlds coolest mentor and we get along great. I've even had more of a motivation to work ahead (13 credits last term with old mentor, over 23 and still counting this term with new one.) The actual class mentors are helpful in a way where they want to see you succeed the first time and give you the recommended shortest path of least resistance for the average student. GRADING: This one is a bit unorthodox... 3rd party grading system that seems a bit robotic. There isn't much depth to the grading method, and it's all surface presentation. For example, this is my assumption of my grading method if I were a grader. Task: Write a paragraph explaining why 1 and 1 is equal to 2? Answer: Blah Blah blah not worth reading, (now the key words) IT IS EQUAL TO 2 BECAUSE MATH, blah blah blah (more in-depth stuff not really worth reading.) I'm basically saying, without those key words, no matter how in-depth you answer, your work will most likely get sent back. BUT this method works out well if you understand it. Since my first hiccup with this, I haven't had any work sent back because it's pretty easy not to mess this up. Those that keep failing, just don't get it. As far as the tests go, just study and don't underestimate the post test. I haven't failed anything yet and I'm no smarter than the average Joe. PASS/FAIL: You either pass, or quit the school. GPA is a straight 3.0 from day 1 to the last day which is the minimum most colleges look for when applying for a Masters Degree. TUITION: It's simply amazing. I pay for less than what I'm learning, It almost feels like stealing. REAL WORLD APPLICATION: As far as information technology goes, a select few of the degree programs truly get you ready for the job market especially in the private Dept. of Defense sector of government contracting. We've hired a good few people from WGU due to the certifications they bring with them.
Wanted to wait until I completed my first term to give a fair review. While I was attracted to the format of this program (online and self paced) it has some major flaws. First is that professors (or in the case of WGU course mentors) don't actually grade your work. You will go through the material (this part was actually pretty good) and then submit tasks. This is where my biggest let down is. The service, Task Stream, is just a 3rd party that, more than likely, have no idea what your field is. You can tell by their "copy and pasted" response they just grade on a generic rubric and look for buzz words. Even following the rubric you will get your work sent back multiple times. My guess is that Task Stream gets paid per grading so it's in their interest to make you submit multiple times. The rubric is very generic, such as, write in detail about X. I have had to just change wording around and finally got the task accepted. You are not writing to learn a subject, you simply write to make the people at Task Stream check off some blocks. If WGU found a better way to evaluate your knowledge it could be a good program, until then save your time. On a good note the program itself is a lot cheaper than many others out there.
Once you have completed Calculus, Linear & Abstract Algebra, & passed your Math Praxis, you must pass gov't edTPA or WGU TAKES AWAY YOUR MATH DEGREE (YOUR PROVEN SKILL) & REPLACES IT WITH A GENERAL ED DEGREE 'cause the gov says you can't teach! WOW!
I just started attended WGU and am not happy. I thought that this school offered a great program for me to work independent and I am not finding that to be the case. They need to be more forthcoming in the info they provide BEFORE you enroll and pay the application fee. Apparentlly you are required to have a mentor assigned to you with whom you must meet weekly, regardless of their lack of knowledge about you or your style of learning. I dread the meetings, find them a waste of time and demotivating. My lesson session with the mentor was so frustrating that I have not even been able to focus on my courses, which up until now i have been staying on top of and ahead of schedule. I personaly find it insulting to be hand held by someone who is just "doing their job" reading a script and disregarding what can help the student succeed. I will be withdrawing if WGU requires that i be babysat. I was looking to save money. I will pay the additional cost and attend a college that will treat me like a human and an adult