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Graduation Year: 2013
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I have read many online reviews about WGU and this website is of no exception. I graduated from the MBA program and I will clearly say this university is no paper mill every class is a challenge. I however will say if WGU continues to do nothing to ensure academic integrity as one reviewer pointed out then it certainly will become a paper mill in the long run. The fact that WGU does not change its course study material and paper outlines at least once a year troubles me. I am seeing many reviews from students who say the finished this MBA in 3 months! My response is are you kidding me? 3 months to research and write over 1000 pages of absolutely perfect research paper submissions and projects. Wow to me you people are either cheating or Clark Kent any way a hearty congrats to you. The one review where the student states you can purchase papers from other students is absolutely credible as I have looked into it. I have to say this greatly disturbs me and destroys the credibility and integrity of WGU's programs. I have to ask the question of why? It would take little from WGU to prevent and stop this from occurring. In addressing the course mentor claims of paid commissions yes it's true as i am friends with my mentor even after graduation and he spilled the beans. In addition it is also true the student mentors know nothing about your courses and they can't contribute any useful information. In addressing the course mentor issues I do not get this because I received helpful feedback from every course mentor that I contacted and the online web seminars are extremely helpful. The question of whether WGU hires it's own previous graduates is easily answered they do my mentor was a previous graduate and in fact being a graduate actually provides you more leverage in getting a interview I have been told. The degree is beautiful on quality paper with blue and gold trim with WGU printed in the background a hard earned treasure indeed. In addressing whether or not DBA or PHD programs at other institutions will accept your degree, absolutely yes! I don't know where some of the folks get their information but they are wrong. WGU is not for the weak minded nor the faint of heart if you need your hand held this place is not for you. In addressing the GPA issue and this I myself have issues with WGU states the student must demonstrate a B or better in every course to receive a pass folks a B in my many years of college experience is a 3.0 GPA I think that this is WGU biggest mistake and has pushed many perspective students to other institutions. Why! competition people I know I was a much better student than a 3.0 because I worked hard to perfect every paper and received top marks in every evaluation however I can't prove it nor can I show any perspective employer that I was an above average student, average student nor can I show I was only a poor student. I am not happy with this section of the WGU institution. The transcripts are not very helpful to any employer and in retrospect to one review when you proceed to apply for any state position that requires a graduate degree or to any teaching position or to any institution of higher learning for acceptance and you certainly you will see that your transcripts matter. I am happy and proud of my MBA from WGU I earned it. I would not however recommend this university to anyone who had a C average in a traditional college or to any one who can't self teach themselves and or have never attended any online classes. In closing and to come strait to the point, I believe if WGU makes some very necessary adjustments that it could truly be the college of tomorrow and the GPA / Transcript and the academic integrity issues should be at the top of their list.

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Marcos - 10 months ago

I would say that WGU has been a diploma mill for the past several years. One of my co-workers started working on his BS at WGU, and his English class is a perfect example of the low standard this institution has. He wrote one mediocre English paper and got an "A" for the class...enough said.

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xavier - 8 months ago

WGU does not give letter grades enough said...

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Bram - 7 months ago

Thank God Lisa didn't get an English degree... I know, I know - WGU doesn't award English degrees.

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Jo Anna - 7 months ago

Speaking ONLY about the RN associate degree bridge to Masters degree program - As an RN with over 30 years experience both at the bedside and in as a senior healthcare executive, this is a godsend. When I became an RN there were no BSN programs, everyone had an Associate Degree or a diploma. I earned my promotions into management through demonstrated experience and taking specific targeted continuing education credits. Over the last three decades much has changed in healthcare and the basic degree is now a BSN or MSN just to get an entry level job. In order to maintain my position in healthcare, I must obtain the letters after my name. The ability to challenge course material that I am familiar with is perfect, at my age and with my experience, I don't want to sit in a classroom and listen to what I already know and have been doing for 20 years. WGU is providing a valuable opportunity for experienced nurses to bridge their degrees to meet standards imposed by for profit external regulatory organizations that deem attending college and having a degree are more valuable than experience. Early in my career it was necessary to present yourself well in an interview, my resume was just the first fast cut, now with everything online, if you can't fill in the higher degree boxes then you are out of the first cut despite the years of experience on the lines below in your resume. WGU has given me the opportunity to keep my career going, keep doors open. There needs to be value placed on experience in the "real" world. The nursing program at WGU does just that. It is a non clinical program, you cannot complete their program and then sit for the nursing exams. This is strictly for RNs to advance their theoretical knowledge or convert experience into a well earned & deserved degree.

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Big Mike - 5 months ago

Lisa this is a decent review and I concur with most of what you have said except I honestly don't believe that a student could purchase another students paper and ever get it past Turnitin- Further if students are finishing this MBA in 3 months then WGU should be auditing them because with the amount of material involved I find that near impossible. As far as the GPA issues that you addressed on the back of the transcript it states pass means a B or better on a 3.0 on a 4.0 gradepoint scale. WGU is the best online college out there by far. The only issue I would like to see improved is the transcript model more precisely the course descriptions and a more accurate individual student grade point scale as you have pointed out.

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UtahMomma - 5 months ago

I have been seriously considering enrolling in the Teachers College for K-6.

My hold back has been whether or not I will be admitted into a Graduate Program for Leadership and Policy at a University in the future.

I met with the University of Utah Advisors and they said that they would still look at me but much closer because of "no GPA" earned. They said it would be harder for me to get into the Grad School but not impossible.

To date, I have yet to commit because I am skeptical of the quality of the education that I would receive here.

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UtahMomma - 5 months ago

I have been seriously considering enrolling in the Teachers College for K-6.

My hold back has been whether or not I will be admitted into a Graduate Program for Leadership and Policy at a University in the future.

I met with the University of Utah Advisors and they said that they would still look at me but much closer because of "no GPA" earned. They said it would be harder for me to get into the Grad School but not impossible.

To date, I have yet to commit because I am skeptical of the quality of the education that I would receive here.

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Big Mike - 5 months ago

Utah Momma I will say this like many others you have misunderstood the GPA issue with WGU. It's true there is no GPA associated with WGU like traditional colleges.There is however a grade point scoring system for each course of study. In the final Task of each course at WGU you must achieve a 3.0 out of 4.0 grade points in each section to pass the course.

The grading system at WGU is not like other colleges you don't receive scores on graded test and or papers such as 60 - 70 - 80 - 90 and so forth each course is graded on a scoring system raging from 0 to 4.0 not from 0 to 100 in other words if you receive 1.0 and 2.0 on sections of your final course work you must make revisions because you have earned a C or less. In the WGU institution In every course you have final assignments that you have to score at least a B or better 3.0 to pass the course.

I will close by saying this there is no university that is regionally and nationally accredited that will reject WGU's degrees because WGU shares the same accreditation as they do and if they did you could sue them for discriminatory practices. WGU is a much more challenging institution than contemporary institutions for the simple fact you can't just coast by and pass a class with a C average you have to show mastery in every course.

In my opinion that's setting a much higher standard for the student to achieve therefore making WGU a superior institution for advance learning than contemporary colleges.

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UtahMomma - 5 months ago

Thank you Big Mike for your comments.

I am still thinking WGU is my best answer because of my 3.5 year old child, the distance to the U (1 hour each way) and no support system here (no family).

I will say I am certain that I would miss the class discussion part of a traditional school setting but hopefully, I would adjust.

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Awesome university backed with amazing learning resources and best practices in education. I completed my MBA-IT management in 6 months of time. I must say it was tough, you need to spend a lot of time in analyzing the problem statement. But with the help of very proactive and supportive course mentors it becomes easy and your weaknesses start becoming you strength. I would always recommend this university to everyone.

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I was skeptical at first, however I'm glad that I took the plunge and continued my education with WGU. I went into the program with an AA and finished in about 9 months. I put in lots of hours to finish in that amount of time. The coursework was not always the easiest and the only complaint I had was with one course, QUAT, which was not written well and had poor mentors, however in any school you will find those instructors that are not the best. This program is cost efficient compared to other programs and I really liked the fact that I didn't have to depend on others in a group setting to get a passing grade. I could complete the courses at my pace. If you are motivated and put the time in you can complete the degree a lot faster than you could at a traditional school. I'm in the process of enrolling in one of their Master programs. Would recommend to anyone that has the self discipline and motivation to get a degree without having to pay a fortunate or be tied to a group.

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Jeannine - 10 months ago

I am not sure why it has a big red X, should not. I do recommend the school.

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Jeffrey - 10 months ago

Hello Jeannine I interested in applying at WGU just wanted to know how are the classes online and how much time did you put to finish that fast.

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Jeffrey, I worked full time and spent most of the time on the weekends to get the classes done. Some classes require written work, i.e. I had to do a marketing plan for the marketing class, a write up recommending how a company should classify itself, etc. Other classes require some studying and then you take a test. Once you pass the proctored test (they send you a webcam), the class is completed and you move on. It really depends on how motiviated you are to complete it. I was motivated and wanted to get it done as soon as possible. Good luck.

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Antoinette - 10 months ago

Jeannine,

I am in the process of applying to WGU, but I am somewhat concerned with the mixed reviews that I have been receiving. I too have an AA degree and I would like to get done with my Bachelors quickly as well, but 9 months seems short to me. Did you graduate from the business program? I am interested in Education and I doubt that I would be able to complete that program as quickly since there will be student teaching involved.

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Selena - 9 months ago

Im wanting to go into nursing, and am applying now. can you email me a referral information so that way my application fee is waived? please?

1catgir1@gmail.com

thanks in advance.

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Degree: Information Technology
Graduation Year: 2014
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Let me frame this by saying that WGU is neither a diploma mill nor a traditional school. What it is, however, is an affordable, accredited, and respected institution that provides the opportunity for working adults a chance at finishing their degrees. Like most WGU students and alumni I know, we started off with some college or even an AS degree but life got in the way and never finished our BS degrees. That being said, most of those I know were/are already established in their careers but had hit a wall in advancement as the next level required a 4 year degree or higher. The purpose of WGU is to allow a flexible program that would fit in to a working adult's lifestyle, providing the opportunity for them to invest time without leaving their homes or cubicles, to completing that degree. It does just that, and fairly efficiently I might add. The biggest pitfall is that you're essentially you're own teacher. This why this is not for everyone. If you have the ability to digest information and regulate it in a practical exam or assessment, then sure enough, this is just the right program for you. If you need a professor giving you homework and having physical office hours to pose questions to, definitely not for you. Mind you, I did go to a brick and mortar school and essentially all I did was go to class, take notes, and read chapters and get tested on it. The classes were just a high level overview with a salting of the professor's thoughts while the book had almost the same material. If you read the book, you could pass the exam. Same concept at WGU. Except here, you really have to know your stuff, at least to a certain degree. Most WGU proctored exams have a low cut score (some even at 60%) so as long as you knew more than half the stuff, you could get a pass in the class. That's one of the complaints I have about the system. I'm not sure you can truly measure competency with only 60% expertise in a subject. In the IT program, however, most final exams are actual industry standard certifications (CCNA, Network+, etc.) that are far from being remotely easy and whose cut scores are more around 80%. Essentially, all I have to say is this. WGU is legit. It holds the same weight as a degree from the University of Utah, Gonzaga, University of Washington, etc. I got into the graduate program at George Mason with WGU as my undergrad degree. Is it easy? Not remotely close. Do you have someone holding your hand all the way? Nope. You do have weekly/biweekly pep talks with a mentor to keep you on track though. If you don't have the guts to do whatever it takes to learn what you need to learn to get your degree, this isn't for you. You may get in. You may make it a few terms. But if you can't maintain momentum, you'll just waste a bunch of money.

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Chris Kinsey - 10 months ago

As a student in the M.Ed. program who is just now waiting for his final grade on his final paper in his final class before moving in to Capstone project and degree, let me say "amen" to this review. Two points I think were a bit harsh. I have never had trouble getting to the class mentors, my student mentor was more than a cheerleader, and there are ample cohort, Webinar, and other resources. But, you do as this review mentions, be motivated enough to reach out and grab them. Far fewer hiccups than I have experienced at brick and mortar schools. Anyone who thinks this is a diploma mill, enroll and then talk to me after their rude awakening. Is WGU for everyone? No. Would I recommend WGU? Absolutely. Would I do it again? Heaven help me I am thinking about adding an additional Masters after I finish this one in about 8 weeks...

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Faisal - 9 months ago

Hello Kendrick,

Thank you for your extensive and informative review. I was wondering is it possible that I can discuss further if I send you my email. I am planning to go in the IT program.

Any guidance and advice would be highly appreciated.

Thank you.

-Faisal

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Ok people this is one of the most honest reviews about WGU that you are ever going to read. I started attending WGU with very high hopes, I wanted to advance in my career field and latter pursue a Doctorate degree. I enrolled in WGU after completing three undergraduate degrees from a regional campus at Ohio University. I could not continue my graduate degree at the time with OU because only a portion of the courses were offered online and it would have required me to move to the main campus 3 hrs away from where I live and that was not an option. I conducted comprehensive research into online schools and Phoenix and WGU's ratings were at the top and both were accredited both regionally and nationally. After further comprehensive research into ratings for both schools I chose WGU and was happy with my choice up until the end of my first year when the trouble began. I started having problems with financial analysis and decision analysis as these are two of the toughest courses in the program. I proceeded to reach out to my mentor repeatedly and received no response after repeated emails and calls (except on Thursday). I did not give up I proceeded to reach out to the course mentors repeatedly and received no response. I contacted student services and they asked me if I wanted to change mentors I said no I just want the man to return my calls when i need him to, just not on Thursday of every week but when I needed him. The student services adviser had no answers for me at all, he just said I will pass on this information to the program manager. Nothing ever came of it! I was determined not to give up so I enlisted the help of my boss who had experience in financial analysis and he pointed me in the right direction with websites and books that would help so in turn I passed Financial analysis. The Decision analysis class was a completely different story, why? because the course video was broken and the video had the content that I needed for the final task and again after contacting my mentor and the course mentor I received no help or responses at all. I had to go to an outside source again to get the help I needed and I passed the course. I was at that point shocked by the lack of any help or guidance in any of the courses. The question of is WGU a paper mill certainly not the program was super challenging however there no student support at all, I am really serious about this and it is a terrible calamity to students who are giving it all to succeed. I do not understand how or why WGU operates this way during my time with WGU I witnessed many many many students drop out because of this very thing. I liked WGU, I really did up until the point when they left me hanging out to dry with no life jacket. I have to continue because I really want perspective students to realize what they are getting themselves into by choosing this school. In my 3rd term my mentor actually failed to enroll me into a class even though it was listed on my COS, I did not find out until I submitted my first paper and the course mentor contacted me and said that I am not enrolled, my response was what are you talking about I have all the course information and COS listed in my courses, she replied you may have but he did not call me and enroll you! I was shocked it was 6 weeks into the program, i asked what do I do! she replied you will have to take it next semester I said no way I will not make SAP! she replied I can't help you contact student services. I said to myself here we go again! I contacted student services and again they asked me if i wanted a different mentor at this point I was very upset, I said no because what difference will it make! In short I didn't make SAP that semester and was set back in my program. I am a busy store manager and could only have time for so much and i was on track to graduate from this program in 2 years after this incident it did not happen. I still did not give up and pushed forward with anger and relentless determination, it actually felt as if this school did not want me to graduate at times. In lieu of WGU's efforts to hang me out to dry, I completed this degree in 2- 1/2 years of unbelievable research and writing with absolutely no guidance or help from my mentor or course mentors in any way people, they will let you fail!, hear me they will certainly with no doubt let you fail. Once I graduated I received my degree in the mail on a piece of printer paper that you could see through it contained two signatures, one from the president of WGU Robert Mendenhall and one from the ex two term Wyoming Governor Jim Geringer. In continuing I received two complimentary transcripts that were the poorest excuse for a transcript that I had ever seen, only the courses name people! with no course content description whatsoever! None! with pass next to it! Give that to a perspective employer people seriously LOL after receiving this degree and transcript I new I had been took out to dinner and left with the bill. In closing I have applied to WGU over two dozen times for undergrad course mentors and evaluator positions among some others like learning resource specialist and academic integrity specialist not once have I been contacted for an interview. I called WGU's human resource department to inquire as to why the positions that I had previously have applied for have not been filled and have been readded to the job board ,why have I not been called. The HR representative stated that those are ghost positions and we will take them off the website, he further stated I need to go knock on doors to find employment these days in this tough economy and he will keep my name on the hiring list. I continued to investigate WGU and carried out further research and I found out WGU will not hire their own graduates I wonder why that is WGU. People this school is the worse you will ever encounter and a majority of these reviews on here are from people paid to market for WGU, you want real facts check out WGU's graduation rates and it will speak for itself. Do not choose this school unless you have a life experience PHD in the field you are choosing because you will not receive any guidance or answers at all on any course. After graduating I was so frustrated with WGU I started researching the academic integrity of their coursework to prove to myself what I already suspected, as academic integrity goes pick any course from WGU and Google it you will find many so called tutors online who are former students who will be happy to sell you there papers and that's how these people are finishing these degree in months. After seeing this I am very pissed I worked my azz off for thirty months to graduate from this program. I am sorry WGU you just are not competent in running a Academic institution and I want my money back, when the class action lawsuit begins my name will be at the top of the list.

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Lyann - 11 months ago

It looks like this was you first experience with online learning setting. This is what online learning is all about. You are responsible for your own work and tutoring. Now I concern about the diploma you received. Can you post a picture of it to see how legitimate it looks?

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Ken - 11 months ago

I'm not a shill for WGU. I am, however, a recent grad. WGU is definitely not for everyone. Most people I know who go to WGU are already in their fields and need the degree to add credentials their experience. I've never once had a prospective employer ask for transcripts, with the rare exception of having done so for government security clearance. A vast majority of employers look for the fact that you at least have a degree, and unless the firm you're trying to get into is very selective, they don't even care about the institution as long as it's accredited and respected, unlike UoP or Devry.

I disagree with Lyann where she says you're responsible for your own tutoring. The course mentors should be available for you. If they weren't that should have been brought up to your student mentor and escalated accordingly. I do agree, however, that you're responsible for your own progress. Again, it's not a fit for everyone but those who are motivated to succeed. At least you graduated, that's much better than most.

As far as WGU not hiring its own graduates, I can't speak for that other than you probably weren't a good fit for the positions you were applying for. Sounds like you app-bombed them. Not really a good look for any candidate. I think you're just spiteful because you've not been able to land a job because of your recent degree. Your networking skills may need some improvement if that's the case. Remember, just because you have a degree doesn't mean you deserve a job, it's just another piece of the puzzle.

Lastly, graduation rates do not reflect the authenticity or academic strength of a school. The fact that graduation rates are low points out that they don't just hand out degrees to anyone. I have a diploma from WGU and it's definitely not on printer paper unless you print your daily documents on resume quality sheets. I don't intend to sound harsh in this response, but if you'd like some help with getting networked, I can assist.

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Josh - 11 months ago

I have to agree with Lyann and Ken. I am about to start an MBA program with WGU, and my wife is already about halfway through the same program. I'm baffled to hear about the mentor issues you're having. My wife's mentor only calls once a week for an update, this is true. That's standard. But she's readily available by email any time my wife has contacted her, without fail. My wife has not utilized the course mentors yet, so I cannot speak to that.

You said a lot of things that confused me in comparison to my wife's run through the program. Did you adhere strictly to the timelines they set out for each class/semester? If so, yikes! The point of their program is that you can move through each class as fast as you're capable. My wife works full-time, and has family life at home, and still has managed to get through all three classes of her first semester and start next semester's classes, and she's still got about two months left of the first semester! She's on track to complete this program in a year, but it's taken a LOT of hard work, hours every day of the week. I agree with Ken that you have to be motivated to succeed in this program.

I'll post my own review on here when I complete my upcoming program. See y'all in a year!

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Chris Kinsey - 10 months ago

As someone just completing the WGU M.Ed. program I have to say that my personal experience is nothing at all like what is described. If you understand what you are signing up for when you go to WGU, and if you have the stamina for it, it is a great school. WGU is right up front with its students - they offer credit for demonstrated competence, not attending classes. It is not easy, but as someone completing an advanced degree at age 55 for my own reasons - not to get a raise or a job - I have been impressed. Sorry the other guy's experience was not the same as mine but sometimes people generate their own success or failure. WGU is for the former, not the latter.

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Lyanette Gonzalez - 10 months ago

I am glad to read how great WGA is, I am about to start by M.S. in Management and Leadership and doing research to make sure this is agood school. I completed by B.S in Managment minor in HR with Kaplan University online. I am looking for more opportunities at work and I really like this program. Has anyone go thru this program.?

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Mary - 10 months ago

WGU's compentcy based education an unacceptable degree I recently graduated from WGU in the MBA program and I am very happy to say its over. I have written well over 1000 pages during my time at WGU and I totally believed once I received this degree that it would further my career and it has not. I have applied for numerous positions within colleges and state institutions only to have this degree rejected because it has no GPA and the transcripts are so vague all it lists are the courses with pass or fail listed. I have been rejected by numerous college institutions for entry into DBA and PHD programs because there is no GPA associated with WGU degrees. Sure WGU states when you pass the courses you have obtained the equivalent of a 3.0 GPA but this is meaningless as WGU will not offer a letter to anyone stating this fact because I have requested it to no avail. As far as support my mentors previous job was a used car salesman and every time I had a question about course content he had no answers and quickly changed the subject. I am not going to go on and be negative about WGU because that's simply not my way however it is what it is, I will not be getting a better career nor will I be accepted into a DBA or PHD program with this degree having said that you make up your own mind.

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Samantha - 10 months ago

This is a joke institution! After I completed my BA at Indiana University, I wanted to find an MBA program that did not require the 3-5 years management experience to be accepted. WGU had just come to Indiana as a new state school, so it seemed legit. I will admit I did not research it enough, as I was too excited to start and get moving on my MBA. I did classes for about a year, then decided I wanted to graduate from a stronger MBA program, as there are many online options. Below are the main problems with WGU: 1. Structure of School - WGU thought they could reinvent the wheel in regards to the standard structure of a university. Rather than the having an advisor, and a professor who teaches your classes and grades your papers, what you get is a personal mentor who calls you every week to check up on you, a class mentor who is basically just there to answer questions in regards to the class, and a third party grader who has no involvement in the class other than grading your paper. 2. Cirriculum - I was under the impression I would be having a standard syllabus with due dates on assignments flexible enough for the working person. Also, I thought there would be SOME multimedia and recorded lectures. What I got was a final project that you need to turn in to pass the class, and a bunch of material and quizzes that you can essentially bypass. They take random chapters from a variety of books and the final project has nothing to do with what you just read. 3. Grading system - When I enrolled they told me it was pass/fail but a passing grade was a 3.0 equivalent. To me, this meant that when an employer or university asked for my transcript it would show a 3.0 average. Not so... no GPA exists at WGU. 4. Going back to the structure of the university I will dive deeper in to the problems that plague WGU; a.)Personal Mentor - When you are new to WGU, you have a lot of questions, and it is helpful to have someone on call about how it all works. However, I am a very independent person. After a few weeks when I figured everything out, the calls got old quick. The mentor went from helping mode to essentially becoming my academic boss. They check up on you in a scheduled call each week, and start getting on your butt about getting the class finished. What I found out soon after is that mentors are paid commission for students they retain. If you fall behind or drop out they are denied commission. So they start panicking if you aren't up to par. Toward the end of my second session I seriously lost all motivation because I realized the program was both flawed and a sham. I just started ignoring the calls from my mentor, and he soon informed me it was required and I could be kicked out of WGU for failing to talk to him. Let's just say the mentor is an annoying pain in your side after the first month or so. b.) Class mentor - These were likely the most helpful people at WGU, as they actually understood the coursework. Unfortunately their help is of little good, as what they want does not coincide with what the third party grader is looking for. I even had multiple class mentors admit that while they prefer it a certain way, to simply stick to the ruberic you are given for the class in order to pass, which brings me to the next section; c.) Ruberic and third party grading - Unlike most professors who use a ruberic to a certain point but still have an understanding of the material you are writing, your paper gets submitted, then either approved or denied by a third party. Example, I finish a project for a class, submit a paper or project, then submit in their database. 5-7 days later I recieve a message saying that I did not pass, and must make revisions. Then you get a scale of 1-5 in each category, you must have a 4-5/5 in every category to pass. While the ruberic is acceptable, there are times at Indiana where the professor did not understand what I was getting at. When I talked to them and explained the situation, they accepted it or gave me feedback on what I did wrong. You get none of this at WGU, just accepted/rejected and numbers. You can have a different person grade your paper each time you submit. For example, I submitted an e-commerce project which required 10 links on the webpage. I have over 10... closer to 15 links. The grader just thought the links were blue underlined font and told me I only had 2 links. This would easily be resolved but there was no communication with them. I think they have updated this so the student can actually send a message back to the grader, but it is still third party grading... they literally outsource it to a company. To me this is unacceptable and I don't even know how these guys are accredited. I started the program in 2/2011, and left 11/2011. It was one of the best decisions I have ever made, and I am now looking at an online MS from a decent program so that I can eventually get into a top tier AACSB accredited school, hopefully IU Kelley School of Business.

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Samantha - 10 months ago

This is a joke institution! After I completed my BA at Indiana University, I wanted to find an MBA program that did not require the 3-5 years management experience to be accepted. WGU had just come to Indiana as a new state school, so it seemed legit. I will admit I did not research it enough, as I was too excited to start and get moving on my MBA. I did classes for about a year, then decided I wanted to graduate from a stronger MBA program, as there are many online options. Below are the main problems with WGU: 1. Structure of School - WGU thought they could reinvent the wheel in regards to the standard structure of a university. Rather than the having an adviser, and a professor who teaches your classes and grades your papers, what you get is a personal mentor who calls you every week to check up on you, a class mentor who is basically just there to answer questions in regards to the class, and a third party grader who has no involvement in the class other than grading your paper. 2. Curriculum - I was under the impression I would be having a standard syllabus with due dates on assignments flexible enough for the working person. Also, I thought there would be SOME multimedia and recorded lectures. What I got was a final project that you need to turn in to pass the class, and a bunch of material and quizzes that you can essentially bypass. They take random chapters from a variety of books and the final project has nothing to do with what you just read. 3. Grading system - When I enrolled they told me it was pass/fail but a passing grade was a 3.0 equivalent. To me, this meant that when an employer or university asked for my transcript it would show a 3.0 average. Not so... no GPA exists at WGU. 4. Going back to the structure of the university I will dive deeper in to the problems that plague WGU; a.)Personal Mentor - When you are new to WGU, you have a lot of questions, and it is helpful to have someone on call about how it all works. However, I am a very independent person. After a few weeks when I figured everything out, the calls got old quick. The mentor went from helping mode to essentially becoming my academic boss. They check up on you in a scheduled call each week, and start getting on your butt about getting the class finished. What I found out soon after is that mentors are paid commission for students they retain. If you fall behind or drop out they are denied commission. So they start panicking if you aren't up to par. Toward the end of my second session I seriously lost all motivation because I realized the program was both flawed and a sham. I just started ignoring the calls from my mentor, and he soon informed me it was required and I could be kicked out of WGU for failing to talk to him. Let's just say the mentor is an annoying pain in your side after the first month or so. b.) Class mentor - These were likely the most helpful people at WGU, as they actually understood the coursework. Unfortunately their help is of little good, as what they want does not coincide with what the third party grader is looking for. I even had multiple class mentors admit that while they prefer it a certain way, to simply stick to the ruberic you are given for the class in order to pass, which brings me to the next section; c.) Ruberic and third party grading - Unlike most professors who use a ruberic to a certain point but still have an understanding of the material you are writing, your paper gets submitted, then either approved or denied by a third party. Example, I finish a project for a class, submit a paper or project, then submit in their database. 5-7 days later I recieve a message saying that I did not pass, and must make revisions. Then you get a scale of 1-5 in each category, you must have a 4-5/5 in every category to pass. While the ruberic is acceptable, there are times at Indiana where the professor did not understand what I was getting at. When I talked to them and explained the situation, they accepted it or gave me feedback on what I did wrong. You get none of this at WGU, just accepted/rejected and numbers. You can have a different person grade your paper each time you submit. For example, I submitted an e-commerce project which required 10 links on the webpage. I have over 10... closer to 15 links. The grader just thought the links were blue underlined font and told me I only had 2 links. This would easily be resolved but there was no communication with them. I think they have updated this so the student can actually send a message back to the grader, but it is still third party grading... they literally outsource it to a company. To me this is unacceptable and I don't even know how these guys are accredited. I started the program in 2/2011, and left 11/2011. It was one of the best decisions I have ever made, and I am now looking at an online MS from a decent program so that I can eventually get into a top tier AACSB accredited school, hopefully IU Kelley School of Business.

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Josh - 10 months ago

Wow. The amount of people complaining because they went into it not knowing what to expect is astounding.

Samantha, for example, wanted to shortcut her way to an MBA ("that did not require the 3-5 years management experience"). I was told up front that it was highly advisable that I have previous management experience before starting this program. Let's look at her issues, with the understanding that Samantha has already admitted "I did not research it enough".

1. Structure of School - Complaining about the format of an online school vs a brick and mortar is just absurdity, but even more so because they lay out the format up front. If you're not comfortable with the format, you're not required to attend classes here. You can back out with no financial repercussions right up until the moment that you open the first class.

If you need to be hand-held by advisers and professors, then no, WGU is not for you. If you want the traditional college experience, go somewhere else. If, however, you're self-motivated, driven, and willing to be responsible for your OWN success or failure, WGU gives you all of the resources and guidelines to achieve their assessments. But it's up to YOU to take hold of that and run with it.

2. Curriculum - I refer you to the previous entry. Did you really not understand ANYTHING about the setup of this school before you signed up? As you were going through orientation? At any point before you started classes? It seems the problem was only that you wanted a "standard" setup from the non-standard program you enrolled in. "Flexible enough for the working person"? How about "whenever you make time to work on it"? It doesn't get more flexible than that! And they tell you, during initial sign-up, at the very beginning of the process, that it's recommended that you dedicate 20 hours a week to the program. They say that for a reason, it's a time-consuming program. They tell you that before you get anywhere close to starting for a reason as well - so that you have a chance to evaluate whether you can spare that much time for the program. That's your responsibility, not theirs.

3. This is a pass/fail program. You knew that going in. It doesn't matter what that means "to you". Why would you assume the University would fabricate a GPA number for you on a Pass/Fail program? If you didn't understand what "pass/fail" meant going in, then you should have asked. You seem shocked that there's no GPA, but in the same breath you say you knew it was a pass/fail course. I'm completely flabbergasted by this whole complaint. I'm not seeing that the issue lies with the school here.

4. This is downright childish at this point. You're complaining about having to check in with the mentor every week, even though it's told to you from the outset that you have to check in with the mentor every week? I agree, it sounds silly, but that's the program you signed up for, end of story. They tell you in orientation that you can be dismissed from the program for not answering your mentor's calls - they have no other way to know if you're still participating! This is yet another complaint about yet another detail of the program that is clearly and repeatedly communicated to potential students, yet you seem completely taken aback by it.

The course mentor is there because they know the overall material. But they're not there to write your papers for you. Do you know what the third party grader is looking for? The bullet points that are listed in the Task description. It's not a mystery. Also, the graders leave comments on exactly what what missing, or what needs expanded upon to receive a passing mark. No, you don't get the same grader every time. But the requirements for the paper are static. They do not change from grader to grader. And if you need to communicate something to a grader, there's an opportunity to write notes when you submit the paper.

I'm going to be honest. You said you dropped out after "I realized the program was both flawed and a sham". From what I'm reading here, it looks like the flaws were your understanding of the program you were signing up for, your ability to operate within the parameters you agreed to operate within, and your ability to handle criticism of your work and adapt said work to meet an acceptable standard. The only sham I see is your blaming a school for your own misunderstandings and failings.

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Talleagle2013 - 10 months ago

Josh I can see that Samantha really stirred you up and that you do not appear to be a student. I can only assume that you are employed by WGU because you talk little about WGU's growing pains and go strait to insult someone. I too am a graduate of WGU and I do agree some of her points are totally unfounded however your accusation of whether or not WGU should fabricate a GPA is non-sense WGU totally implies a B or better to pass a course so by using a letter grade system also implies a 3.0 GPA.

I have visited many college review websites and the most reported complaints about WGU is that no Doctorate or PhD. program will accept WGU's degree's because of no GPA's. Further are poor mentors that are paid commissions if you pass and broken or missing course content. Statistically speaking not all of them could be wrong. I graduated from WGU and I did not have one issue it was a excellent program however I would only recommend WGU to subject matter experts in their chosen fields. Given that you can easily discern that's not what is happening WGU's recruitment process is flawed in such as to recruit any and all they can for the buck like all other colleges and you said it yourself WGU is not like all other colleges and that's why seriously low graduation rates. You take care Josh and Samantha I hope in spite of your problems you were able to succeed in your strives for higher education.

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Jenay - 10 months ago

My gosh, all of these comments are overwhelming and helpful on my decision to move forward with WGU. Listen, I am a Junior at Devry & a reservist in the Navy and have had the worst experience with Devry upon leaving for active duty and returning back to school from active duty. AND I found out I would need to pay 10K just to finish my bachelors degree. I was looking into WGU as my escape goat and finish my program quickly. Well, I put my application in online in around August 20th week. Here it is September 7th and I STILL HAVE NOT GOTTEN A CALL NOR EMAIL FOR THE ENROLLMENT PROCESS. It's been 3 weeks and still nothing. I called WGU and asked them isn't someone supposed to call me and send me the initial competency test. The person I spoke to didn't seemed that concerned. He said they will probably give you a call this week... Still nothing and I had my transcripts mailed to them and I still haven't gotten anything from them. SO, I got online and I'm reading the reviews and now I want to stay away. I'm worried I'm going to have to sue the School just to get my degree. HA, I'm not going to this school. I much rather pay DeVry an overly expensive, almost not worth it school, 10K to just simply get my degree and finish up!

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Christina - 9 months ago

I will be a first time college student, I was enrolled in a college at one time and attended a few classes. However, before my first term paper was due, I had to withdraw. My husband at the time was active duty military. Anyway, I am very interested in WGU Texas. I have done a lot of research and just came across this review site tonight. I like the feedback from current and former students. I see that most are making it clear that you have to able to work on your own to get the job done. I prefer working alone so this will not be an issue for me. I have taught myself many things through research. I am seriously ready to start. If I had to ask a question it would be: When I submit my information to attend this college, will I be flooded with 'sales calls' or will they genuinely be there to help me get started.

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Paul - 7 months ago

This review is the most concise on here and has totally convinced me not to attend WGU. I must say Josh after reading many reviews on this and other websites that you can totally discern who are quality control employees hired by WGU to police these types of websites. I in no way shape or form believe WGU is a reputable institution. In rebuttle to all of you who say WGU is a good college in the real world of academia a college with no letter grades, no professors, clueless mentors who get paid commissions, unchanged cirricullum year after year, third party graders and papers for sale this school would be closed in a second. I find this college to be a fraud and what I have read to be very upsetting. A real education seriously are u kidding A MBA in three months, A Bachelors in 6 months these kinds of schools will totally destroy academic integrity in this country and from what I have read I would be terrified to go to a hospital where a BSN or RN had a degree from this or any other online college. (Shocking)

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Sancho - 6 months ago

To "Paul"...funny how you have posted the same canned comment on more than one review on this page, with only the name in the second sentence being different. A post labeled 'A Unbiased Review' (sic) by Lisa, found above, is a prime example. Your trolling license has hearby been revoked "Paul." Lulz!!!!!!!!!!

To those actually looking for truth, just read Josh's reply to Samantha, above, as it explains things in a logical, intelligent, and straightforward way.

To "Talleagle2013"...your response to Josh frankly boggles me. You appear to believe that anybody demonstrating the thoughtful properties found in Josh's reply must, in fact, be a WGU employed "plant," rather than an intelligent 3rd party. He simply laid out a well thought rebuttal to the irrational rant posted above by Samantha. It appears to me that you are intimidated by his obviously higher intellect. I don't mean to insult you, as I assume the blame lies with those that enabled your "sharp wit" during the formative K-12 educational years. A mind is such a terrible thing to waste.

Furthermore, this sentence clip from your post is another of many shortcuts to thinking found in your reply:

"however your accusation of whether or not WGU should fabricate a GPA is non-sense WGU totally implies a B or better to pass a course so by using a letter grade system also implies a 3.0 GPA"

Do you honestly believe that WGU should falsely fabricate a GPA because of an "implied" B grade level being assigned as the line in the sand between a pass or fail in their pass/fail grading system? Who in God's Creation taught you that comparing apples to oranges was acceptable logic?

For the curious, I am not currently enrolled in any classes at WGU and never have been. I am, however, interested in finding out the factual pros and cons of enrolling before I make a decision. The points laid out by Josh align with what I have already read time and time again so far.

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Talleagle2013 - 6 months ago

Sancho if that's really your name I find your comment about Paul to be credible and I think it is quite funny. It regards to your further distasteful and certainly biased comments aimed at me. I find myself having to provide you a little education above kindergarten in our system of education a letter grade is calculated by a grade point average scoring system any educated person knows that however it appears you are not. The facts I stated about WGU are most certainly accurate. I find it very funny that Sancho appointed himself the police over this website! I also find it very entertaining how he chooses to humiliate himself by showing extreme bias towards anyone with a negative comment about WGU. Sancho goes on to further reveals his true identity by his blatant attempt at covering his tracks in commenting that he is not connected to WGU in anyway (You should have left that out by the way) Sancho you may as well pulled your pants down and revealed the WGU tattoo on your behind. Very funny indeed and not very competent Sancho a big Lol.

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Brenda Redinger - 6 months ago

This is becoming immature banter. Honestly, Paul, to say that you would be terrified to go to a hospital where a nurse earned a BSN from any online college is ridiculous. I am finishing my BSN from University of Phoenix and I have been working as a nurse for 14 years. I did not learn my clinical skills at an online institution. The course work in an online BSN program is simply theory, such as management and leadership and community health nursing, etc. It is not hospital bedside nursing skills, such as inserting NG tubes, IV lines, and doing physical assessments. Do your research before you post scathing comments, please. By the way, rebuttal is the correct spelling, not rebuttal. This is why you need a brick and mortar school.

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Big Mike - 5 months ago

This review is so crazy Voyager1980 you have a Masters degree and you want your money back OMG sir maybe you need to see a psychiatrist- Did you even research WGU at all before you enrolled i know you say you researched online colleges however did you actually go to the website and read what WGU was all about apparently you did not. Why did you not accept another mentor - why did it take you six weeks to submit your first paper? If you really had such a bad experience with WGU why on earth would you want to work for them? Do you actually here what you are saying? Samantha why are you pursuing a MBA if you have no experience managing a business oh I know just to have a degree LOL! Talleagle Did you even bother to turn over the transcript on the back it clearly states WGU's grading system and Pass means that you have aquired at least a B and a 3.0 on a 4.0 scale. WGU is a the best online college out there they are regionally accredited by one of the 6 accrediting agencies that all recognizable college belong to and any reputable school will accept their degrees. I find this review fictional at best because of the reviewers mental condition WGU is a excellent affordable college for working adults who need a degree to succeed or further their careers period.

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APissedOffGraduate - 11 months ago

Well where do I begin because it's obvious to me half of these reviews are scripted. In beginning this review I never in my MBA program at WGU had any contact with teachers why by the time they answer you what's the point. Second this Degree is worthless the transcripts you receive tell nothing about the courses you take only the name of the course and pass or fail no letter grade no GPA. The degree comes printed on a regular piece of printer paper that you can actually see through. To be honest if I could give this degree back and get my money back I would in a heartbeat. I worked my tail off for this MBA and no employer will take this degree seriously, I know 11 other MBA graduates that feel the same way 5 of them including myself have applied to WGU for employment over two dozen times and not even afforded an interview once. I was told I set my expectations too high for this degree in my belief it would advance my career. I know believe this so called university to be a paper mill why because after I received this degree I did some research and i actually found several websites that will sell you this MBA all you have to do is rewrite it. If you are considering going to this so called college think again and those of you that completed this MBA in a year I know how you did it and believe me you accomplished nothing. I no longer put this degree on any resume because it is most certainly a negative. I know I will receive rebuttal comments from WGU employees but after speaking with your HR department and being told to go knock on a few doors all of you can kiss my AZZ because your in the business of selling degrees and you could care less about the students after they graduate. the WGU so called family do not hire their own graduates that says it all. I feel very bad for all the people who tried to get this this program because they do not help you at all. The moment you pass a course your used car salesman mentor gets a commission. Think twice about going here and yes WGU you get what you pay for.

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Josh - 11 months ago

Are you for real? You supposedly did all this research and were not aware that the classes are Pass/Fail? You seem to be really confused about how this program was supposed to work and what should be expected from it and yourself. Surely their lack of hiring you couldn't be a personality issue?

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Stephani - 10 months ago

I agree with Josh. I also think that your terrible grammar could have something to do with it.

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APissedOffGraduate - 10 months ago

Josh you are a regular poster child for WGU and just how much are they paying you to post fictional reviews. In fact all I see you doing is insulting people who has issues with WGU. On your reviews you keep saying Pass/Fail what good is a college if there's no competitive GPA. I wonder if you actually sat in HR position and you had a couple applicants withs graduate degree and you reviewed their transcripts and all of them but WGU's had a grade point average showing 3.0 or above. "Yeah you know where this is going don't you" it's true that WGU's only show pass and Josh pass can mean anything a "D" is pass really which applicant would you choose. The question is quite clear! Stephani! WGU is hiring evaluators since you already seem to be one.

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charlie - 7 months ago

Thinking about signing up but will readily admit I'm only doing it for the degree credentials. I don't care about the course work because I've been in the pharma industry for 15 uears

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Regina Kamara - 11 months ago

For example: Ask clarifying questions, share your experience with this school, ask for more information (on classes, professors, career opportunities, etc.)I am looking forward to do my masters in nursing is this a good ideal? Are there reliable mentors to guide me through?

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Hailey - 6 months ago

Is your accounting degree proving useful to you in the job market?

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