Sonoran Desert Institute

I am currently over halfway through my online education at SDI and I don't think it is worth the time or money. For anyone who has no experience with firearms prior to starting will easily become lost. Instructors seem to be the biggest issue. The few times I have reached out to instructors I have had almost no response. When they do finally respond, it will be days later and is usually far to late to actually help. There is also the issue of instructors grading based on what they believe to be true... Read More and not what is included in the provided PDF textbooks or the essay writing standards. I won't name any in particular, but there have been numerous times that I had assignments marked down with the only reasoning being, "I don't agree with this." The information inside the provided material is accurate compared to my prior experince with firearms, but is all easily obtainable outside of the class. The only real benefit I have been able to find in paying for this "education" is the ability to obtain an FFL after I graduate and receive a certificate. This is quite disheartening as I had only hear good things about the school prior to attending. If you genuinely want to learn about all aspects of gunsmithing, I recommend finding someone already working in the industry. The hands on experience and practical knowledge from a professional gunsmith will outweigh anything that you will likely learn from SDI. Otherwise, I would say to take the same approach I did when first learning. Buy a firearm you wish to learn the functionality of and do some light research on the specific make and model. Not only will this provide the same information as SDI at a fraction of the cost, but it will also provide you with a firearm that can be used for future education.

Maintained a 3.8 average for an entire class, uploaded final project. Next semester looking through the prior pages noticed a 71(barely passing). Upon further investigation the final project was still sitting in the que. Never uploaded completely. Possibly due to Internet glitch. Contacted school that could see the problem, and that the project was done on time and turned in. I received to email that could have notified me of this. Several phone conversations and tried to appeal, but they don't care.... Read More All they want is your VA money. All about a dollar. All I get now is threatens of collections on a small balance due. (After that I just quit). If you think they care about education think again. All about the $$$

I'm about to begin the final class in this program and all I can say is don't waste your time or money. I learned more from watching YouTube videos, which is what they directed us to watch for an explanation of the concepts of the courses. Honestly, it seems that the goal of the program is to prepare someone to manage a firearms business rather than being an actual gunsmith. You don't need education to be a gunsmith. Just go apprentice with someone who actually knows what they are talking about and... Read More then branch out on your own when you are ready. The only thing good I am really going to get out of the entire program is an Aero AR-10, which I could have just purchased for a fraction of what the program costed. Don't do it if you actually care about knowing how to gunsmith for your effort.

Here. We. Go. I first started looking into SDI as a way to hopefully get some education for an actual degree in the field of gunsmithing and a way to get my foot in the door for expanded college options later down the road. Little did I know that this school teaches nothing. All the coursework to the point I am currently at has been a joke. There is no real flow to any of the material. The discussion posts are irrelevant half the time or are harder than the actual coursework for that week. Also,... Read More half the things you write about or present in a video for a grade are recycled from previous courses. I can not tell you how many times I have cleared and fieldstripped my guns for this course. Textbooks? They are your "reference" nothing more. I have learned more from YouTube than from the instructors and provided material. Learning is another thing. I use that word sparingly as I have had the knowledge of 90% of the course as a gun enthusiast and military member. Instructors are inconsistent in their availability and knowledge base. Some only do this part-time, Out of the six classes I have had, only 2 are actually involved and ATTEMPT to provide an actual learning experience. One of my instructors dropped a grade on an assignment because I provided what the instructions said too, at least what I could make out. Everyone in that class received a poor grade because it didn't meet certain requirements that weren't stated in the instruction, and when reaching out to the instructor about how it was odd that all of us almost failed the assignment and submitted a similar layout because instructions were unclear, he gave me the old "just do better next time." Unacceptable. If you need to get ahold of an instructor after the course has ended, better have saved their email from the week one introduction otherwise, you are out of luck. I have had a final project get a 50% because an instructor didn't see the video link I posted on the final page. Luckily I save the current course I am in as a favorite, so it auto-puts me on that course page, if not, I wouldn't even know my grade for 4 weeks after the course ends because you get zero access to anything with that class at 12:01 AM the day after your class is over. The tools you receive are a HAIR better than Harbor Freight quality. Now you do get quite a few tools and equipment from this school, but most of them are tools that people have already in their garage, so storage is a bit of an issue. Some of the stuff is also one-and-done. Use it for a single video project and never touch it again nor plan to. The only things I have received that I actually was excited about were the $200 cleaning kit and HydroDip kit you get. All-in-all. A poor excuse for an education. The first few weeks, I suggested this school to friends, but by the end of my second class, I redacted that suggestion. If not for the Army paying for this, I would no longer be a student.

I have been debating on writing this for roughly a year now. So here it is. Hello my name is Dakota Wright. I own Wright Firearm Solutions. When I began looking into SDI, I was told by the staff right off the bat. "Sir with your experience, I would strongly advise you not to enroll in the program. It sounds beneath you." (Strike 1) automatically I started getting more red flags. Because I was asking hard questions the staff was tryingto discourage me from attending. Starting class I quickly realized... Read More how pathetic this school is. The material is not cited correctly and lacks credibility. They use YouTube videos and sketchy online articles to prove their points. (Strike 2) The tools and equipment they send are worthless. I've had my eye nearly taken out by their tool exploding while using it. (Thanks safety glasses). Worst of all, when I reported the school to their accreditation institution (DEAC) they scrambled to answer my calls. I was told by the head of academics for the school that they are very much aware of the flaws and it's the board of educations fault for their issues. I called over 30 companies ranging from small businesses to large industry leaders. I asked each if they would hire someone from SDI and I received a unanimous answer of NO. When the industry itself doesn't recognize the school as a valuable source for education thats got to say something. Furthermore I am coming to this school as someone who has a couple decades around firearms and their technology. I also have a degree in precision machining technology where I'm formally recognized with merit from NIMS (National Institute of Metalworking Skills). The school tried to make money off me and my benefits because they didn't want to recognize my degree or certifications. After calling the school and chewing people out they accepted my transfer request and I was given the credit I deserved. Currently I'm a 4.0 student and I'll be honest. This school is set at a middle school or freshman reading level. It's pathetic. Most of what I see coming out of this school are people who don't know better and think they know things because the did a couple silly projects. It's sad because SDI has the ability to do real good but yet they are producing people who in my professional opinion are not qualified to be a gunsmith. SDI in my opinion is praying on the people who have a passion for this industry but those very same people lack the education and or experience to know better. Currently SDI is not recognized by the firearms industry as a positive resource for quality education. I should know because I educate in this industry everyday. SDI took their gunsmith program and sprinkled in some "Higher education" core classes and called it an Associate's degree. However when you graduate with the Associate's degree you don't get the gunsmith credentials even though it's the same classes! (Strike 3). For the love of God. Stop listening to these people. They are shady and lack quality education and foundation. Despite the large names that push their brand online. This school is not worth your money or time. The teachers are lazy and don't give quality instructions and you have to hold their feet to the fire. Some of my teachers learned first hand what happens when they speak on things that they have no clue about. Seriously if you are going to teach then don't start with stuff that you clearly have no idea what your talking about. As far as Gi bill predators go. I cannot at this time confirm that however I wouldn't be surprised. This school should be shut down and the people in charge need a serious wakeup call. Folks be careful. Everything this school teaches you can learn on your own and it won't cost you 25k. Save the hassle and get some discipline. I will be doing an in depth review of SDI upon my completion of their course. Dakota Wright USMC Veteran 🇺🇸 Weaponologist Semper-Fi

SDI emphasizes old and outdated work while only briefly covering modern methods and technology. For the machining course, for example, we received a coursebook that was written for certified machinists and the entire course was theoretical. I honestly did not understand anything yet my grade was in the high 90s. THAT SHOULD TELL YOU ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT IT. The materials you receive are mostly cheap Chinese crap with the occasional cheap American-made crap. Someone who knows absolutely nothing... Read More about gunsmithing may learn something from the 2 years and $25,000 spent. But anyone with even a little experience will just waste their money! I know I wasted 2 years and $25,000 on stuff I learned 10 years ago or will never use in my entire future as a gunsmith. I should have gone with AGI or an apprenticeship. It is a FOR_PROFIT school OUT FOR PROFIT ONLY.

Full Disclosure: Sonoran Desert Institute is an absolute joke. Do not waste your money or allow them to further swindle federal education funds in your name or from your service member education funding benefits. The courses lack actual instruction, the course material consists of 98% various YouTube links which are not made by OR for SDI instruction/instructors. I withdrew from classes after my 2nd semester, and have since filed an official petition with the federal student loan board to have any/all... Read More federal moneys returned on the basis of the institution failing to provide the promised level of education/knowledge as well as the blatant misinformation SDI feeds potential victims (aka future students) regarding the validity of ones "credentials" upon completion of their "Associates of Applies Sciences Degree in Firearms Technology" which is not recognized by any reputable name in the industry (or anyone in the industry for that matter aside from being an overpriced, sad joke) nor is it offered anywhere else in the country because it is an entirely made-up degree. I am now currently entirely prevented from enrolling in courses elsewhere (need to complete a final semester to obtain my teaching cert. in high school Special Ed.) due to Sonoran Desert Institutes refusal to release my, 2 semester, transcript while I wait for the fed. dept. of ed. to get around to reviewing/granting a release of responsibility for the partial semester they claim I owe tuition for after withdrawing (despite having already been charged in full for said tuition). These people are absolute TRASH. Stay far, far away!

I read all the comments about the school and I guess my experience was different. I learned a lot and it helped me get into a position to get my FFL. I found the school to be helpful to me and all the courses online were good. The block of instructions was definitely intense at times and the practical exercises were good. Learning how to build a holster press, do hydrographic dipping, and build a project firearm was great for me. I learned a lot, got some neat tools, and an AR-9 platform build and... Read More everything was good. I used my G.I. Bill and everything worked great

As of writing this I have 2 more weeks before graduating with my Assoicates degree. I grew up with firearms but never got into the level of repair and the science of how they functioned or how to repair. With life happening I had to leave my job and make a move. I ended up choosing SDI not only to learn more about firearms but to also get my general classes done in order to work towards a Batchlors degree to obtain better employment. Not knowing what I wanted to do at that time, the Assoicate program... Read More not only helped in furthering my knowledge in firearms, but the 15 month program also got general classes done while I figured my next move. SDI has helped me in that aspect and doing it online worked with my schedule. As for SDI itself. They were helpful in talking about the program and helped with the process of enrollment. With it being an Assoicate program I knew it wouldn't make me a professional gunsmith but be an introductory to gunsmithing, the different aspects of the industry, and the science behind firearms along with ballistics. The instructors I had/have were/are helpful. I had an issue with one that ignored my e-mails and came off rude on a discussion board in my first semester. Everyone else had replied in a timely manner and were helpful when I got stuck on the subject for that week. I had two instructors that I was able to talk on the phone with. I had three instructors that would use video to break down and explain the weeks work and others that may post a video explainer here or there but all would reply to e-mails (except that one). Class was not all YouTube videos but YouTube is used either with their own channel or others. Some material is sponsored or has "using product 'x' which can be found in 'Y' store" endorsements in it. As for how knowledgeable the staff is they seemed to understand the subject that is being taught on the gunsmithing side of the program. General studies didn't show signs of "lack of knowledge" and what had been taught was verified to the best of my abilities. Overall, SDI is not a bad online school to attend. What people need to understand is that these classes will not make you a professional gunsmith. This is to help with the basic understanding of firearms and a launch pad to continue learning through apprenticeship and a lot of practice. I chose the Assoicate program to work towards a Batchlors degree to obtain better employment and pay so I will have the money and time to continue learning and working on firearms. As for the cost. When I signed up the total cost was $20,680 for the Assoicate program. After Pell Grants (what was left over after paying for classes I had the school put towards my student loan) I am left with a little less than $8 grand to pay back at roughly $75 a month for 10 years. Hope this review helps and what every you chose I wish those reading this the best of luck in life.

Just going to put it into monkey terms. THEY. ARE. G.I. BILL. PREDATORS. literally every class you take is a YouTube video or a commercial article related to firearms. If you want to learn anything about firearms just watch their YouTube channel and get your education for free and don't waste a few months of your G.I. bill. Watching their YouTube channel and then subscribing to some firearms related articles online is free and will still give you the same education that they already offer. For some... Read More of the instructors there, education isn't even their primary job. They literally take this job as a hobby and you will never receive an actual lecture from them, where they break the chapter down and explain things to you. All they will do is send you a few links from YouTube or commercial articles that have already been posted online a few years ago. If you're reading this and are still skeptical... just go to YouTube and type in SDI. From there you should be able to fine all of there videos. You can watch all of them for free. The average video is maybe two minutes long with a few of them being an hour long. You'll also have to fact check the videos that you watched because a majority of the videos were posted over five years ago. Anyway stay away from the school and most definitely for the love of God. Do not waste your G.I. bill on this school. It's a joke and the degree itself will not do anything for you nor is it anyway equal to or more valuable than any other degree that you can earn from literally any other school. In conclusion if you want to study ballistics or firearms. Just get a degree in criminal justice and focus on forensic. With a degree in criminal justice you can get a education higher than Associate and still learn all there is to know about firearms and the degree will actually mean something. While at the same time placing you above your peers.

Stay away!! GI bill predators and they know it. Most of the curriculum is either a YouTube video or an article you can find online for free. Find somewhere else to find a subpar education. These people also don’t seem to care if they spread your personal information accidentally. One of the forms you need to complete with my sensitive information was sent to a bunch of people. I was contacted by someone who received it stating in a large group email to prospective students, my completed form was... Read More sent instead of a blank form. Stay away!

Overall this is a great program for learning about firearms. You will leave this school knowing significantly more about firearms. However, this is really only a baseline education for entering the firearms industry. You will need to put forward more effort and research into firearms on your own. SDI will provide a solid education and it’s up you how far you take it. 100% you can do the bare minimum and pass. The curriculum is not difficult but still requires a lot of work. They will mail you projects... Read More which are excellent for gunsmithing and actually fun. My only complaint is that the instructors will only provide any real feed back unless you specifically reach out to them. The reading material is great. If you take the time to do additional research on your projects you will benefit a lot more. I cannot stress this enough though. If you are not truly interested in firearms don’t waste your time here. The curriculum goes into depth about firearms which includes a lot of science, physics, ballistics, metallurgy, and so on.

Ok, here is the deal. I came to SDI only because AGI wants cash up front only, and lets face it, unless you are Elon Musk, who is going to have 20,000 just laying around, right? I wanted to get an associates degree in firearms technology because I wanted to show potential customers coming to me for work that I am competent and that I know guns. For the first year, things were great. I was acing my classes, making good grades and things were going pretty good. Then shooting sports management and government... Read More classes came along. These instructors were terrible. No help whatsoever, no feedback and I they failed me in both classes, despite me having a business already and knowing what the hell I was doing. Suddenly, I am being informed by my student advisor that I am no longer meeting the "academic requirements" for further attendance with the school and that I have to appeal this decision or I could lose my financial aid. This was enough to wake me up and realize that I was only getting this piece of paper and that is exactly what it is...a piece of paper that says I know my stuff about guns. I was raised on guns, I grew up around guns and I know the in's and out's of gun repair already. I just thought I wanted a means of proving to customers that I know my stuff. Folks, trust me, you DON'T need a degree that says you know gunsmithing. This is a HAND'S ON INDUSTRY where you learn through apprenticeships and personal achievements, not sitting at a desk at home, reading useless cut and paste crap on your computer. If you want to learn how to checker a stock, then go out and actually checker a stock. Don't read about it, do it! You do not need a degree for this and don't let anyone tell you that you do. Let your work speak for itself, not some piece of paper on a wall. This is just a joke for money. Don't fall for it like I did. If you want the paper that proves proficiency, certifications from the manufacturer are where it's at. This is the wisdom I wish to impart to you.

I would agree with most of those who gave SDI a low rating. I graduated with a 3.85 GPA in 2017. There was very little discussion or feedback from instructors. Keep in mind that most of the instructors, with the exception of the core class teachers, have other jobs within the firearms industry and teaching is there secondary profession, and as educators, they lack academic experience. SDI gave me a theoretical overview of gunsmithing, but not hands-on experience that could be applied in a real-world... Read More setting. Find a gunsmith program at a community college if you want to acquire applicable skills. SDI cannot give you that! What SDI did give me was the desire to move forward with my education. The introductory psychology class I took at SDI piqued my interest so much that in 2020 I graduated with a BS in Applied Psychology. This July, I will graduate with a Masters's in Educational Psychology. Then in September, I will start my Ph.D. in Cognitive Psychology. So, SDI did not do much for me in relation to firearms, but they did open up the world of academia to me. After my master's, I will teach intro psychology at the college level. Thank you, SDI, for putting me on an incredible learning journey.

After finishing my final projects for the last week of my degree, I can honestly say that this school has taught me so much. I've read the negative reviews people have given, and most of them are actually incorrect. My instructors didn't just, "copy and paste" responses to students, unless the students were the type that didn't give the coursework actual thought. They invested countless hours into helping me, and I've grown so much in my knowledge of firearms. The labs taught me a lot, and the coursework... Read More has taught me a lot as well. You are starting into the gunsmithing business, but you're not going to go to any college out there and become an expert. That just doesn't happen, but I guess that's why they are complaining in the first place. This college will give you everything you need, but only if you take it seriously, and you are willing to put in the time and effort to really study the material. There's a reason that less than 50% of students graduate from SDI. Some are lazy, some get in trouble for plagiarism, some drop-out, and some just don't make the cut. I'm willing to bet that most of the negative comments are from those who didn't finish (not all), but you only get out of it what you put into it. So, if you're serious about wanting to learn about gunsmithing, you have a long road ahead of you when you start the degree program. However, when you finally reach graduation...I can't even begin to tell you how good you'll feel about yourself. You passed a challenge that only about 38% of students were able to finish (actual statistics). Don't listen to the naysayers out there. If you want to learn gunsmithing, give SDI a chance. You'll be glad you did. I did. This is from someone who slaved day and night for a year and a half now to obtain a 3.95 GPA. The other negative commenters (I can guarantee you one thing), didn't take it seriously. It's on you, and they obviously didn't hold themselves to a higher standard. Thank you to all of my SDI teachers, and thank you for putting up with all of the students that constantly berate and belittle you throughout their schooling. I've heard horror stories from some of my Professors, and they were always surprised whenever they dealt with me. Apparently, it's a rarity to have a student that is actually respectful, and a student that genuinely respects their knowledge and critiques. If you can't take criticism, and you are the type who just like to blame others for your problems...please don't go. They deserve better students than that. Thank you again to all of my Professors who helped me so much through this journey, thank you for helping me better myself, thank you for helping me keep going when I thought I just wanted to throw in the towel, and thank you for believing in me even when I didn't believe in myself sometimes. You're all awesome!

I understand that there are a number of individuals who are bashing SDI. I would venture to say that these individuals who "never" received timely feedback or similar correspondence from their instructors failed to check their emails and/or alerts. My experience with this school has been outstanding. I have attended multiple colleges and universities, and very few have given me the personal assistance and flexibility that SDI has. Any course that I have not achieved an "A" in has been due to a failure... Read More on my part. While this school is not on a Harvard, Yale, Ball State, or Murray State recognition level, it is an accredited institution. And for all of you "a** hats" who believe that you are special and you should have your instructors' complete attention, how about doing your homework and actually reading the books. This is a Firearms School, not a general education establishment. For those of you that have a problem understanding that, I will help you. SDI IS A TRADE SCHOOL. That means you have to use not only your intellect but your hands as well.

A joke of a school. Instructors copy and paste feedback for forums and assignments. Instructors don't give any instruction at all, just grade assignments that you are left alone to read directly out of the book. Tools included in the course are cheapest on the market. If you want a piece of paper that says you have a degree this is the place for you. Do not waste your GI Bill! No one will hire someone based off of the material taught by this school. If a grad is hired it is because of knowledge gained... Read More from another source.

I understand why some might have a negative view of the online format but that has nothing to do with the quality of the resources, the tools, and especially the instructors! I am only two classes into the Gunsmith Certificate program and I couldn't be happier. SPEAKING TO ACTIVE DUTY or GI BILL users: this is a great use of Tuition Assistance but it does require you to dip into two months of your GIBILL as the TA Certificate money tops out at 21 credits and the Cert program is 32. So, online learning... Read More is different. Everyone can agree? You get out of it what you put into it. I always received prompt feedback from my instructors and while they didn't reply to every post I always understood why I got the grade I got. The rubric was clear and concise and they followed it. The materials they send you (for free, if you are using TA) are awesome! Remember those little OTIS cleaning kits we got that fit in our cargo pocket? I received a suitcase sized cleaning kit from SDI. And in the end, you are building an AR or a 1911...FOR FREE! I mean, forget all that they are teaching you and the great tools and resources you collect over the course of the program. When it is all said and done, they are giving you a firearm! How can you beat that?