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The program is labeled as Health Informatics but the focus is Health Informatics and Information Management. Most of the time things run smooth. My issue is the school does not back or support you as a student at all. They have your money so they don't care. The PPE process is a nightmare. You do all the work calling around finding places. The contract gets bounced back and fourth and they don't assist in speeding the process. Mine took almost a year. Schedule got set and when I started with the site it was so unorganized and probably the worst experience to date. The site scheduled me in the wrong department, they didn't review what was required or suggested as tasks and, my scheduled hours were approved but was was not honored by them. Day two I was told the contract that took a year was no good because I was listed as a nurse and the school didn't correct that. Day one is when they looked at my requirements no arrangements had been planned and other departments were not available on such short notice. After speaking to my Advisor, health placement, and the program director they said there was nothing they can do to make my situation better and backtracked on finding alternative solutions.
This is a teach yourself program. Some of the test are online with the use of a camera and microphone to prevent cheating Less than 1/5 of my cohort has finished the program as of today. What I have learned most was patience and constant let down. But the Price for this program is Workable. I paid for it out of pocket. The assignment criteria is so vague and the course mentors are not helpful. WGU grades your practical assessments through a company called Taskstream. Often, I would turn in my assignments, knowing that Taskstream would rejected it, just so I could get clarification back from the company actually grading my work. The BSN program is mostly online, with clinical rotations at local hospitals. WGU has contracts with the local hospitals. Some locations treat you poorly because you are in an online program. The WGU students sometimes get the left over assignments. Even though WGU is a BSN program and some of the other schools may only be LVN or ADN. WGU does not have credits, the program is a "Meets Requirements" grading system. This has not a problem for my when it came to applying to a Nurse Practitioner Program. Many programs accept WGU transfers. I actually graduated from a Traditional university, so I have that background to compare to WGU. A BSN at WGU is my Second degree. WGU says its a 2 year program but it ends up being 2 and a half because they make you retake courses. Its all about the money. For example, my undergrad is in biology. SO I have a lot of upper level chemistry and biology but I still had re-take biochemistry. I also have about 10 years in the medical field working in a laboratory to working bedside too. The first semester, I blew through it with in weeks. But I was not able to advance into the next semester. Then two course mentors blocked my advancement because they would not approve my objective assessment i.e. final exam. The course mentors felt like I did not study the material thoroughly. So every term I started in the previous term and I was ready to test like a few days into the new term. But course mentor DA and CD did not care. Lastly, They really took their time dragging my graduation paperwork through processing. Even though I express to multiply departments that I had employment pending and I need to take my NCLEX ASAP. I offered to pay to have my paperwork expedited. I have been delayed 3 months for my new job and I do not know if my new employer will hold the ob offer much longer.I do not know how other nursing programs work but I cant really say that WGU has prepare as much as my own professional background, finding information on my own, and the now 5 months that i have been preparing for the Nclex. Mentally, financially and emotionally, I DO NOT FEEL READY TO TAKE THE NCLEX. I would not recommend filling out some of the financial aid scholarships links at WGU, its spam. They do break up your payment every term into 4 less painful, monthly automatic withdraws.
Before going through WGU consider: #1. WGU is NOT an accredited institution, only their programs are accredited. That's good, but it is FAR MORE important that an institution be accredited. If it is not, then the majority of your work (your degree) will NOT be recognized by other colleges. #2. WGU boasts about the percentage and employment of WGU grads, but does not report how many of those people were ALREADY employed in their chosen career prior to attending WGU. In summation, my opinion is that WGU is a bit more like a second tier trade school. It isn't horrible, it isn't expensive (relatively speaking) but you would be better off going through Udacity since their courses have well-known industry backing.
When reading the reviews of this school, the astute observer will note that students either love or hate their experience there. There is a minimal amount of ambivalence expressed and that is because for the pragmatist or the driven, the school is a Mecca. There is about as much opportunity for intellectual inquiry at WGU as can be found in your local Walmart. If you are willing to completely enmesh yourself in concrete, simplistic busy work and have a modicum amount of discipline, you can work your way through this morass in record time. Indeed, on a productive day even I was able to complete 8 credits worth of courses in an afternoon. Therein lies the conundrum. Do you want to learn or do you want to sport an additional few letters at the end of your name? If what you aspire to is simply an accredited degree, WGU may be just your type of place. Jump through a bunch of hoops, avoid any intellectual or meaningful interaction and you are there! Unfortunately, in today's increasingly narcissistic society, it is the appearance of learning that is valued, more than the experience. WGU excels in this type of environment. Classes are nothing more than what appears to be random tasks, evaluated by nameless robots, with whom you are precluded from interaction. Your assigned "mentors" can only counsel you, they have no actual ability to determine curricula nor can they modify grading. This dis-connect makes for a frustrating and de-humanizing experience that I would imagine, would be of minimal concern to the individual focused on that plaque on the wall. Don't misunderstand me: the assignments are not necessary easy. Often they are written in ambiguous, pretentious language that practically requires a translator to deconstruct. This is the hallmark of superficiality: if it looks complicated it must be intelligent. There is no creativity, no push for greater understanding or challenging the status quo. The instruction offered at WGU more closely resembles training than actual education. Bottom line: if you are smart but shallow, go for it.
YOUR CREDITS AT WGU FOR THE MOST PART, WILL NOT BE RECOGNIZED BY MOST UNIVERSITIES. Example, lower level electives are 50-70% ok to transfer from WGU, but all major courses will be given zero credit. SO please understand unlike any other university, you can never leave and go to another school unless you are OK with starting over and paying again.
This is a terrible school. If you know everything and just need to take a test then you are going to do okay. If you EVER have a question about anything you can forget it. If you ever need help you will be told: "Sign up and take the class at another university and then trade it in here for credit." "CLEP it." "Take DDST/DANTES." "Get a tutor." I have never received any help for anything from the university and only speak to my mentor for some reason once a week and all he or she does is approve assessments for me to take. Unless I can get approval and here we are. Again. I cannot even tell you how many mentors I have had. Maybe 10 at this point? I wish I had never started this program here. I would never recommend this program or school to anyone unless you clepped all of the non-IT stuff and just took the certifications. I don't know what any of the other programs are like. I had plans to go on and get my Master's but I hate school so much at this point that I would rather drink poison and have pretty much decided maybe in 20 or 30 years...never again for now though.
You CAN NOT transfer ANY business credit to ANY other University for undergrad, so until you graduate you are hostage. IF you graduate then you can explain about WGU, which you will need to do as it seems unknown to employers (Fortune 500). No one understands anything other than credit hours, which WGU does not provide.
I need to start off by saying that I did not end up graduating from WGU. I decided to return to a local university and graduated in 2014 with a Bachelor of Science in Education. I thought I would give a review of my WGU based on my experience. When I decided to get a teaching degree, I needed something to allow me to continue working (substitute teacher). I have small children and a busy lifestyle. I earned my Associate's Degree through a local community college and it was mainly online with a couple of classes on campus. It was hard to finish up a day of subbing and rush (30 minutes) to campus for classes until late in the evening. When I saw WGU, I was interested in the convenience. Here is my personal experience: WGU is set up on 6 month terms. Basically, however many classes you can finish in that time frame is up to you. You pay the same whether you complete 1 class or 30 classes. I loved this idea because I am very responsible, self-motivated, and a hard worker. I submitted my transcripts, filled out all of the required paperwork, and was given my degree plan for Interdisciplinary Studies (Elementary Education). The local university had me graduating in May of 2014 where WGU had my estimated graduating date of May 2015. I didn't like the extra time, but thought I would be able to able to work hard and finish sooner. I had 16 classes needed at my local university and 24 through WGU. I went ahead and signed up with WGU. My mentor was to call at 6 AM, which was not good for me, but I made it work. I did not get much out of our conversations. If I had a question, she would tell me someone else to call. It felt like a waste of time. The course mentors seemed to know their stuff and they would offer webinars and recordings that felt like a class, but more times than not, these were scheduled at difficult times for me. The instructors gave written and verbal information. There was a lot of technical difficulty making it hard to call in to the webinars or listen/talk over the computer. Many times we had to type out our conversation, which isn't a problem for me since I'm a good typist, but this is something that many struggled with and ended up not participating much. There are two different types of classes. Some classes require that you study the information using the webinars, online text and other resources, and then take a multiple choice test at the end. You do have the opportunity to take a practice test to see if you are ready, but I never found these practice tests to be very helfpul as the material did not seem to be consistent. I did feel like the practice tests were harder, including more specific details. The ending test seemed more generalized and easier. You will need a WGU webcam and sign into a location that will monitor you while you take this test. You will be required to show them the room you are in, your computer, all around your desk area, etc. The other type of class requires a written research paper. This is turned in and evaluated by separate instructors who you have not been involved with while taking the class. If there is a problem, they will send it back for you to correct. I only had one sent back and it was pretty vague as to what needed attention. I was told the person who evaluates your paper can be different and is totally random. You may get someone who isn't picky about certain aspects, but the next time they might be. Not consistent grading. I think I went through the first couple of classes in less than a week, so I was moving quickly. A couple of months into my first term, my degree plan changed. I just logged in one day to see it. I immediately called and was told that they put me into the Special Education degree program as it was just a couple more classes and would make for better opportunities for me when I graduated. This was not discussed with me at all. The "couple more classes" ended up being 9 more, making a list of 33 classes and pushing my estimated graduation date back until May of 2017. The classes were lined up in such a way that the new ones were toward the top of the list of classes I needed to take next. I could not get any answers on this and it became very frustrating. I was locked out of the courses I wanted to take and could only move forward with the top few that were posted for that term. These were classes that were added for the "Special Education" plan. Over a week went by with no answer and I finally just picked a class that I felt would contain the best information for me. A couple of days after starting the class, I got a return call from someone at WGU who was trying to help me get it figured out. But they were still checking into it. I was so frustrated. I kept calling and it took a month to get that straightened out. Once they did though, my old degree plan list of classes was locked. It took them several more days to get me back on track and working on my classes. The pass/fail grade concerned me from the beginning, but I was assured that school districts were on board with the idea and that WGU offered a clear explanation that seemed as though passed classes were more than above average work. Be careful with this as I was finding out school districts may not like this. Many applications specifically ask for GPAs. There are a couple of required tests that each state requires their teachers to pass in order to obtain certification. WGU is based out of Utah, but I do not live in Utah. There was a lot of conflicting information regarding which test/s I needed to take. I was told that I needed to take all tests required for the state of Utah and then transfer to my state. I was then told I needed to take the tests required in my state. I was also told I needed to take past tests, even if not required by my state. I was told I needed to take both Utah and my state tests. It was very confusing. I called the department of education and confirmed what I needed, but WGU said they were not correct. Ended up I only needed to take 2 tests... one during/before I entered into the teaching program, and the major content exam for my state. WGU was wrong and misleading over this. Had I listened to them, I would have taken and spent money on tests I didn't need. I think WGU has a great concept, but has a lot of things to work out before I feel it is a good option for those seeking a teaching degree. Working online through all of the classes is convenient, but even with my experience in the classroom, I don't see how anyone could get the same knowledge from an online course as they could from a physical classroom environment. After my first term with WGU I realized this and went back to the university. This wasn't the only reason I made this decision, but it was just another factor for me. Although I am self-motivated, I felt all alone. I guess for some that is ok, but I enjoy the interaction with others... that is why I want to be a teacher! I enjoy the hands-on learning. I enjoy the experiences that being in a class of other students offers. All of that is just not possible with an online class. I was getting the facts/information, but there is SOOO much more to be a good teacher than that. WGU might be well suited for those going into other areas, but I feel for education majors, it doesn't offer what the student needs to be the best teacher they can be. I was also disappointed that most of the classes I took at WGU did not transfer. I left WGU and went back to the university. I graduated with my BSEd and have a job lined up. I am confident that my experiences at the university gave me far more of what I needed to be successful. The reasons I liked WGU: * Convenient * Can work at my own pace * Easy * Price seemed lower/comparable What I did not like about WGU: * Inconvenient weekly phone call each week * Lack of effective communication * Course work did not seem challenging * Missing out on physical classroom experiences for my degree - did not feel it was preparing me to be a teacher in a classroom * Felt they delayed my work on purpose to slow me down * Added/changed my schedule without discussing it with me * Ultimately was going to end up costing more in the long run * Did not offer GPA * Lack of knowledge over correct certification requirements/tests * Repetitive classes * Many classes did not transfer * Began to doubt WGU and did not have confidence in my direction with them This is just my personal experience. A lot of factors could be different with others changing their experience. I think it matters which program you are seeking, the mentor/s you get, and the speed at which you complete the courses. I hope this review helps.
While the concepts and price are appealing it only shows how far behind we are with the worlds Universities. Of course the Ivy League schools are exempt from this critique since they are indeed the best brick and mortar schools in the world. I already have a degree from animals to see how difficult it is to get an online degree in the US without spending too much money. My initial interview went very well and it was supposedly with my mentor that as soon as I started the program quit the university or went to another department. The mentor I got assigned completely useless and as other people said did you try to slow you down instead of help you. In any case I decided to not even study and just register for the exams, which i all passed to my enormous surprise. Coming from Europe I had to freshen up on US history and the Constitution but all the technical curriculum was so simple (disclaimer I've been in the IT field for 30 years). In any case you know IT Systems you can easily get your bachelors degree in 8 months.
I had a problem talking with the supervisor, they wouldn't get on the phone and had a middle person translating messages. I think it was very unprofessional and wouldn't recommend noone get involved with this school. They are very rude and assume you should automatically no things that was not communicated to yourself