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Re: your student mentor. You are going to like or less than like your student mentor. I have a good relationship with my sm in that we have similar network backgrounds an converse in a friendly manner. If the relationship doesn't seem to be working I believe you can request another sm.
When it comes to rubrics and tasks, I have found that trying to slide by with mediocre work generally wastes your time in revisions. When turning in a task, be sure to schedule in the reading for the next as soon as you have turned in the task. Dont wait for a "meets", which is 3-4 days away. Yur milleage may vary, but I haven't had good luck with reading all the coursework at once.
In my senior year at Thomas Edison State College, the major defining difference between TESC and WGU was the posting of weekly papers and required commentary. At TESC if your comments were poor there was no chance for an "A" for you. I know WGU is pass/fail but so far,in my WGU Masters program there has no effective collaboration. I have posted questions to the community boards that were answered, but the questions did not relate directly to the tasks.
While I have worked years in networking, imagine how much fun I will have on my first day back at work with my freshly minted Master of Science in Information Security and Assurance.
This school is surely not for those who need their hand held all the way through their academic career. It is also not for those who are looking for the social aspect of brick and mortar schools. We do have online forums and social gatherings, but this school is about just that - school!
I am less than six months from completing my BS in Marketing Management and feel absolutely confident in my education. This has not been nearly as easy as I thought it would be, but that's a good thing. They don't just hand out degree's - they make you work your butt off for it. There is always someone there to help.
The world is at your fingertips. As far as the tuition, after going to school here, I see absolutely NO reason for education to cost more than $6000 per year. WGU is such a gem!
I was able to finish my Masters in 3 months and 9 days! I am not a good writer and struggle with school in general. I needed a program to fit my full time job, family of six, and a crazy schedule. I dedicated 3 hours a day and was completely done in 3 months.
I love that you don't have to be even an average learner to succeed at WGU. I loved that all the books were included with the price and were online. I loved that I set the pace and that it only cost $2,000. I strongly recommend this school.
WGU has been an amazing experience for me. I began my undergrad BS in Business, Marketing Management Degree program in January 2010 and Graduated in May 2012. I applied and was accepted into the MBA program and have just begun my second term.
I recently changed employers and was hired in at a level that I've been advised is "unheard of." In other words...there are plenty of internal candidates for my position but I won the job offer even in a tough employment environment. I definately owe this to the academic and personal development that I achieved through the WGU experience.
If you are self-directed and self-disciplined this school can help you achieve your goals far faster than a brick and mortar institution. I rate the quality of my education highly and have nothing but respect for WGU.
Like many online schools WGU gets a mix of excellent and poor reviews. I picked thier IT master's program for two reasons. First, it was the only one I found where obtaining IT certs were part of the course. Second, they claimed it was respected for NSA security standards. I had a good experience my first term, but a string word of caution. Do not expect them to assist you if you are in the military and get deployed. As a part-time guard guy I got called up to active duty status and was unable to complete my second term. Below is a description of how WGU screwd me over.
You only need VA money to cover the term, anything extra, such as grants and loans obtained from FAFSA will be refunded to you. I elected to use the excess for additional books and materials not required, but useful, for my course. When I notified the student services center about being called up on active duty for 8 months I was informed they only honor 2 month deferment for deployments. Who only gets deployed for only two months? Anyway, WGU told me they would "help me out" and refunded the student loan money for the term and then immediately turned around and asked me for the money they gave back to the lender. It's a shady practice expecting someone to have thousands of dollars to give you. They refused to defer payments until I am able to start again and are profiting for their "support" to military personnel.
I highly discourage any military person from attending if you have not separated yet.
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WGU has these mentors who babysit you every week to make sure your doing your job. The courses you have to have everything exactly the way they want it or the entire task gets rejected. Seems like a planned set back to keep you in school. Simple things that can just be marked down and still accepted at normal universities and still be equivalent to an A- or a B+. They require everything to be exactly the way they want it and the instructions are not exactly clear.
You find a leap of information that could have been spelled out in original instructions after you call 2 to 3 mentors who are obviously paid to hold your hand. Really, its a waste of time, all these phone calls and what not. Not for me and I will be changing schools very soon.
After I completed my BA at Indiana University, I wanted to find an MBA program that did not require the 3-5 years management experience to be accepted. WGU had just come to Indiana as a new state school, so it seemed legit. I will admit I did not research it enough, as I was too excited to start and get moving on my MBA. I did classes for about a year, then decided I wanted to graduate from a stronger MBA program, as there are many online options. Below are the main problems with WGU:
1. Structure of School - WGU thought they could reinvent the wheel in regards to the standard structure of a university. Rather than the having an advisor, and a professor who teaches your classes and grades your papers, what you get is a personal mentor who calls you every week to check up on you, a class mentor who is basically just there to answer questions in regards to the class, and a third party grader who has no involvement in the class other than grading your paper.
2. Cirriculum - I was under the impression I would be having a standard syllabus with due dates on assignments flexible enough for the working person. Also, I thought there would be SOME multimedia and recorded lectures. What I got was a final project that you need to turn in to pass the class, and a bunch of material and quizzes that you can essentially bypass. They take random chapters from a variety of books and the final project has nothing to do with what you just read.
3. Grading system - When I enrolled they told me it was pass/fail but a passing grade was a 3.0 equivalent. To me, this meant that when an employer or university asked for my transcript it would show a 3.0 average. Not so... no GPA exists at WGU.
4. Going back to the structure of the university I will dive deeper in to the problems that plague WGU; a.)Personal Mentor - When you are new to WGU, you have a lot of questions, and it is helpful to have someone on call about how it all works. However, I am a very independent person. After a few weeks when I figured everything out, the calls got old quick. The mentor went from helping mode to essentially becoming my academic boss. They check up on you in a scheduled call each week, and start getting on your butt about getting the class finished. What I found out soon after is that mentors are paid commission for students they retain. If you fall behind or drop out they are denied commission. So they start panicking if you aren't up to par. Toward the end of my second session I seriously lost all motivation because I realized the program was both flawed and a sham. I just started ignoring the calls from my mentor, and he soon informed me it was required and I could be kicked out of WGU for failing to talk to him. Let's just say the mentor is an annoying pain in your side after the first month or so.
b.) Class mentor - These were likely the most helpful people at WGU, as they actually understood the coursework. Unfortunately their help is of little good, as what they want does not coincide with what the third party grader is looking for. I even had multiple class mentors admit that while they prefer it a certain way, to simply stick to the ruberic you are given for the class in order to pass, which brings me to the next section;
c.) Ruberic and third party grading - Unlike most professors who use a ruberic to a certain point but still have an understanding of the material you are writing, your paper gets submitted, then either approved or denied by a third party. Example, I finish a project for a class, submit a paper or project, then submit in their database. 5-7 days later I recieve a message saying that I did not pass, and must make revisions. Then you get a scale of 1-5 in each category, you must have a 4-5/5 in every category to pass. While the ruberic is acceptable, there are times at Indiana where the professor did not understand what I was getting at. When I talked to them and explained the situation, they accepted it or gave me feedback on what I did wrong. You get none of this at WGU, just accepted/rejected and numbers. You can have a different person grade your paper each time you submit. For example, I submitted an e-commerce project which required 10 links on the webpage. I have over 10... closer to 15 links. The grader just thought the links were blue underlined font and told me I only had 2 links. This would easily be resolved but there was no communication with them. I think they have updated this so the student can actually send a message back to the grader, but it is still third party grading... they literally outsource it to a company. To me this is unacceptable and I don't even know how these guys are accredited.
I started the program in 2/2011, and left 11/2011. It was one of the best decisions I have ever made, and I am now looking at an online MS from a decent program so that I can eventually get into a top tier AACSB accredited school, hopefully IU Kelley School of Business.
Save yourself some time and money, don't go to WGU. When I read good reviews for this school it blows me away. I literally learned NOTHING over the course of a year in this MBA that I did not know from IU. I am paying for an education not a degree mill.
I just graduated from WGU and I can say that it's a different type of school. I am proud of my education there and am planning to start my MBA with them this February.
To be successful takes a high degree of self discipline, more than a traditional brick and mortar school (I have experience with both). You also MUST be able to learn on your own.
If you are the type of person that learns from someone demonstrating or "showing" you something, then you might find it harder to succeed. You have to be able to learn from reading, researching, and reasoning.
This school is perfect for adult learners currently working full-time and interested in pursuing their degree towards career advancement. You have to be able to utilize the resources provided: mentors, books, webinars, and of course being computer saavy is important.
I just graduated from WGU with my bachelor in finance and I have to say that WGU was the right fit for me. I did a lot of research prior to enrolling and was a little disappointed that I only got a few transfer credits from WGU.
However, since you pay for the semester and not per credit I was able to speed through some of the general education classes. The whole bachelors took me only three years and I did work a full time job and another part time job the whole time. I loved the flexibility of the individual studies.
Yes, you have to be self motivating and self disciplined. This is not a school that holds your hand but be honest an employer does not either. What I learned from the school besides finance is independent studies, self discipline, time management and critical thinking which I am using greatly in my job. I had a great mentor (and it was the same the entire 3 years). GO WGU