Bastyr University Reviews
After completing my Cell and Molecular Biology, B.S. from the University of Washington, I knew I wanted to attend medical school but I was not attracted to standard medicine approaches. Medications and surgical interventions did not interest me. I actually learned about Bastyr from a doctor. I sought them out as I needed to overcome chronic liver problems caused by excessive prescribed NSAID use. After a year of care, I became healthy once again. They told me about Bastyr and I checked it out. Once finding Bastyr was an accredited school which would provide me tools needing to practice primary care medicine in Washington, I enrolled. The campus itself is on absolutely stunning grounds which also helped me make my decision. The quality of instruction overall was excellent. I state excellent as I graduated confident that I could help patients recover from a myriad of chronic conditions. Yes, there were a few professors and courses which were not my style but what college has a perfect batting average for all students liking all professors and courses? You make the education what you want out of it as there are so many opportunities to expand your network. Think of Bastyr as the hub and all the medical institutions and major clinics around the NW and beyond as spokes. I definitely leveraged this network and greatly expanded my knowledge outside of school hours and during preceptorships. One preceptorship I had was with William Rea, MD in Texas who was the world's leading clinical ecologist at the time. He welcomed me without hesitation and it was an outstanding opportunity and a lasting friendship. If you are passionate about either helping prevent disease, optimize health or helping others overcome disease, naturopathic medicine taught at Bastyr University prepares you exceptionally well. If you want to learn about emergency medicine or minor surgical techniques, Bastyr has strengths here as well as I have colleagues who are doing quite well in both. This is not my area. The best business decision I ever made was going to naturopathic medical school at Bastyr - even though it was met with massive resistance from both my parents and many of my friends. Yes, I graduated with a lot of debt but I've since paid it all off and give back to the community. Currently, I own and operate a respected supplement company with global distribution while writing, researching and presenting worldwide. I am happy to work collaboratively with all health professionals - ND, MD, DC, DO, RN, LAc and all others who work tirelessly serving their patients. What initials are after our name truly don't matter. What matters is what you're most passionate about learning as that is what you'll be best at doing.
Going to Bastyr was the worst financial decision I ever made. I followed a dream of wanting to pursue a career that I thought was very interesting and would be enjoyable while also being able to take care of my health doing it. I didn't care so much about making a lot of money doing it; I just wanted to make enough to live a comfortable middle class life. I thought the satisfaction of being able to live a healthy lifestyle would outweigh everything else. Studying Acupuncture was in fact interesting, but nowhere near worth the price tag of Bastyr. The beauty of the campus is the best thing it has going for it. The ratio of the money most people make coming out of Bastyr compared to the amount of student loans one has to take on going to Bastyr is way out of balance, in my opinion. The websites that tell you how much Acupuncturists make are grossly inaccurate. Six months after graduation, my student loan payment was roughly $1000, after about $82,000 borrowed. Six months after graduation was not nearly enough time to start making the kind of money necessary to start paying that kind of expense off for me. I was not able pay down the debt fast enough for the interest on the loans to start accumulating making it very difficult to even touch the principle. I will probably now be living with these student loans for the rest of my life. I wish I would have chosen to pursue a more practical degree at a more affordable college because the amount of financial turmoil I am burdened with because of going to Bastyr is not worth it. If you are taking out loans to go to Bastyr, then plan on paying off two mortgages if you ever want to buy a house.
I understand how difficult it is to choose which graduate program to attend, I too was in your place. This university is amazing at selling you false hopes. If you are attending this institution be prepared to pay double to triple the average price for a fraction of the benefits. Do not rely on the library being open, on supportive professors, on tutors available when need be. If you are experiencing hardships, you WILL have to face even more as they will not support you whatsoever. Please please please take my word for it. Go ANYWHERE BUT BASTYR. Their reputation is becoming worse day by day. The president of the university caused a number of professors to leave until they fired the president WITHOUT hiring another for an entire academic year so far. Be sure to check out their diversity within YOUR program (or lack thereof). Run!!! Keep your hundreds of thousands of dollars and RUN!!!!
Negative review is mostly true and I would agree, although there are some very dedicated instructors mostly in the core programs often classes are taught by new graduates who have never practiced. The clinic is a horrible experience, did nothing to teach me how to treat patients. I was not at all prepared to step out on my own and believe me once you are done with school you are on your own. I personally don't know anyone that's actually made any money as an ND. There are NO jobs in spite of what the school says. I have never been able to service my school loans which were substantial and now i'm just trying figure out how to redeem myself and gain some self respect after this colossal mistake. If I had it to do all over again I stay in the building trades at least I have a small pension.
Excellent education, rewarding profession, but do consider the amount of student loan debt you may be accruing and plan accordingly. I believe the negative review may be fake - the quality of the writing and spelling do not reflect the admissions standards required, or the intelligence expected of a naturopathic medical student. ND's are outside of the mainstream and as such are still reviled and mocked by some individuals.
Avoid this school like your life depended on it. This school is TOXIC! The students and staff are so unhealthy. They sell you a program that is boasted as being in a beautiful wondrous setting on the shores of Lake Washington on pristine acerage. They boast how their programs are world recognized. Instead you get some of the worse professors I have ever had. Its as if everyone with severe emotional issues decided to either attend as students or apply for jobs as professors. Having a professor bring his guitar to class and stand up in front of the class and cry and be all emotional week after week gets old. I paid my tuition... and I wanted to be taught, instead it was the biggest waste of 300k I've ever spent! This is theeeee worst return on your investment. who spends 300k on an education to earn an average of 80K 5 years, yes 5 years after graduation!!!!????!!! Sonographers with a 2 year degree from a community college graduate and START at that wage!! Dr. P one of the founding fathers of Bastyr is a complete A**! He stood up and talked about how his son brought home a fat chick with bad skin and he had no idea what in the world his son saw in this girl...? Excuse me? you say this to a room full of 130+ students? He went on to say MD's have NO business being primary care physicians and that only Naturopathic "doctors" are experienced enough to be primary care physicians. First of all after what I've seen ND's have zero business calling themselves doctors. The "diagnosis" skills taught are GROSSLY inadequate, the treatments plans at the clinic were dumbfoudningly inadequate! My time at the Bastyr Clinic... the Prestine clinic of the UNIVERSITY! was beyond inadequate and disappointing. I was snowed. This program is dangerous!!!!! The department of education should be pulling their funding. I cannot believe this profession has convinced governing powers it is a legitimate profession. Run! if you are considering this program. DONT walk away, Run!! So many people left this program. I should have too! I am telling you the administration only cares about taking your money. They do zero zero zero to help you acquire any kind of employment. Just google nauropathic medicine jobs. You will find.. like 1 or 2... paying less than you can make as a checker at Safeway!! RUN!!!! Save yourself a life of junk cars and junk medicine.
Bastyr is set in the lovely St Edwards park in Kenmore Washington surrounded my dense forest with gorgeous trails leading down the the banks of lake Washington. The campus host one of the largest botanical medical gardens in the northwest, and both the garden and forest act as a living classroom for students in the various natural medical related programs, mostly at the graduate level. Over the last decade bastyr has developed incredibly strong, rigorous , and unique bachelors of sciences degrees in Nutrtion, exercise science, human integrated biology, clinical psychology, culinary arts, and the only bachelors degree of its kind, the one I graduated from, herbal sciences. All programs are very biochemistry and research intensive, and are e essentially premed for those interested in pursuing graduate natural health degrees such as masters of science in acupuncture and East Asian medicine (the program I'm currently enrolled on), Nutrtion, health psychology and doctorate in naturopathic medicine. There are also numerous certificate programs such as holistic landscape design and incredible classes, workshops, CEUs and other activities on the campus all the time. This is a serious school for serious students who wish to work hard and have a career in medicine and make a significant impact note health of their communities. This is not like regular medical school in the way you do not come out with a gauaranteed job, you have to hustle and create your career, but you will have just as many loans as an MD who will be making six figures their first year out. That is not the reality in natural healthcare, so consider hay before entering the field. Bastyr is a small, young, private school growing stronger and stronger each year. There are numerous acupuncture schools in the us, some really great ones by I chose to stay at nastyr for numerous reasons including the integrative community of friends and colleagues that you naturally build, the amazing clinic(located in seattle) and array of incredible, knowledgable supervisors who are pioneers in the fields, the beautiful campus, ability to work at off sites clinic sites in more mainstream wal there settings, and the people who work at bastyr that make it what it is. I've some amazing great instructors there, and some not so great one, and that is denote ly an area where hey an work on improvement, but its hard for such a small school in a not very well funded field and I understand this. Make no mistake however, the majority of the faculty is too notch, leading experts on their fields, the people who write the text books, its like that. The staff of so helpful and really there for us students. I've worked in the library for 3.5 year and had to give an astounding hand to the abilities library staff that provides us with a style of the art medical research library and all the resources we could ever need, try truly are the best. Overall I would chose bastyr again always if I had to do it over. If you are passionate about health, want to make a difference. and ready to work hard, this is the place for you! These programs are very rigorous and physically, mentally, and emotionally intense and taxing, so be ready!