Motorcycle Mechanics Institute Reviews
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The school is a very well put together with a large amount of knowledge in every classroom. I feel the need to write this because of so many bad reviews I see on the internet. A huge portion of the students at MMI are dropouts that couldn't go to college so they use MMI as a way of going to a higher level of education. These uneducated rejects fail at MMI just as they do at most things in life and immediately blame the school, for its everyone else's fault and not their own. I attended MMI last year and graduated with perfect attendance and on the directors list, which means I put a lot of effort into the knowledge I obtained. The instructors are incredibly smart and were always helpful, especially when I asked for extra work. I am nineteen years old, and I work in the number three Honda dealership in the nation. It just goes to show that people who talk trash on the school and go nowhere in life are unmotivated, and thought that merely attending the school would give them the knowledge that they needed. I had a large amount of classmates that sat and texted all day and cheated through class. Three of them now work at Walmart, if you are thinking about going to this school one bit of advice from me is, grow up.
I attended MMI in the mid 80s and 20 years later returned to work as an instructor. I taught the Harley Davidson V-Rod class and the entry level Theory class for several years and then returned to Wyoming where I am the service and parts manager for a metric dealership. MMI can teach you what you'll need to be prepared to go into a shop and continue to learn in order to be successful as a technician but it can't teach you absolutely everything in the time you'll be there. Several things I always told my students was (A) not to expect to make a lot of money as a tech. Yes, you can make a decent living but you're not going to get rich. (B) The first 5 years are the hardest. You will be at the bottom of the pay scale while still needing to buy tools and learn your trade. If you can make it through the hard years you'll have made your major mistakes, assembled a good selection of tools, and begin to make money but (C) do not go to work as a flat rate tech right out of school. You will have neither the tools nor the experience to make it working flat rate. As has already been said, you get out what you put in at MMI. If you show up everyday, work hard and ask a lot of questions you'll get your money's worth. But here's what I saw most commonly as an instructor. In an average class of 20 people about 5 students strive to get everything they can out of each class. They show up looking professional, work hard, ask a lot of questions, ask for extra projects when they have time so they can practice and learn more, accept constructive criticism when they make mistakes and learn from those mistakes. These students can become top techs and instructors always wish they had more of them in a class. The majority of the class, 10 students, show up most of the time, usually dressed properly, do their work but don't ask for more if they have time and tend to argue when they get caught making mistakes. They'll work in the industry but many times don't last and likely won't become top techs. The last 5 students show up enough not to attendance fail, do enough work to get by but never ask any questions or ask for more work, and they cry and snivel when they're caught doing sloppy work. They're only there because their parents, rehab or somebody else is paying them to be there and but have no desire to actually work in the industry. They spend all their spare time outside talking on their phones, gossiping with other slackers, and smoking. Though I am now in management, and specialized in Harley Davidsons when I was a tech, I was what is called a multi-line technician, meaning I worked on everything, motorcycles, watercraft, quads, snowmobiles, etc. Working on everything was more fun and made for better pay checks. Being a efficient, competent, and fully equipped tech allowed me to live and work all over the US and even Europe, where I spent 5+ years working in Harley shops. I haven't gotten rich but I have been able to make a decent living and enjoy what I was doing most of the time. So if you are going to go to MMI seriously consider what you want in return for the money you're going to be spending.
After reading the reviews here, including a "review of the reviewers", I have found that basic education in this country has failed in monumental proportions. I have never seen so many grammatical, spelling and punctuation errors in a space dedicated to reviewing ... A SCHOOL! Lower case "i" when it's "I", "there" being used for "their", "your" for "you're" and vice versa ... and ENDLESS sentences with the use of several conjunctions doesn't even begin to cover it! I've even read the word "their" being used in place of "there"! One would think that MMI should teach bare bones basic English except that the tenor of the reviews is such that the classrooms would be empty. I am in possession of a Class A license in California. After securing this license, on my own using my personal contacts, I landed a job driving a big rig. After many, many years of working my field I became the guy who would evaluate new hires as to whether or not they had the aptitude to operate the equipment. No, not only if they could "drive the truck", but the equipment found on the particular truck used in my field. If they had the aptitude I would then teach them but far too many failed. I suspect that being a "mechanic" is pretty much the same. If you aren't mechanically inclined then no amount of schooling, certificates or credentials is going to change that and even if you get hired somewhere, you are likely not to last too long. So let's say you are mechanically inclined and you sail through the program at MMI with flying colors. You then head out looking for a job. I can tell you that if you use the kind of "English" that I've read on these boards, on your applications, you are likely not going to get the job. ANY job. I wouldn't hire any of the reviewers here simply based on your poor grammar skills. Now, I can hear quite a few of saying, "WTF?" and "FU A$$HOLE" and the tried and true new pop psyche term, "Well ... I! ... wouldn't work for someone that petty anyway!" or something similar. Here's a reality check: You will be using these poor grammar skills when interacting with my customers, writing up work orders, talking on the phone with clients, etc. and ... I can not and will not put my business in the hands of ANYONE that uneducated, lazy or both. what kills me is that there is this new technology called ... Spell Check. Then there's an old school technique called ... Proof Reading. Almost all of you here should try these two things sometime. You'll come off like you actually have some education, aren't lazy and that you care. By the way, I evaluated many new hires who came straight from "Truck Driving School". I dreaded meeting these folks because I always had to un-teach much of what they had been taught. Most of what they learned was wrong and inapplicable in the "real world" of truck driving. But it isn't the schools and institutions fault. The schools and institutions are usually accredited. Which means that they have to adhere to any particular states "standards" of teaching that particular field. I have found that those who write the rules and laws, our legislators, know nothing about that particular field they are writing the rules and laws for. So after graduating, if you're lucky enough to land a job, be ready and willing to learn a particular shops "ways" of doing things. But that is life. A never ending process of education. Good luck.
I am currently enrolled in MMI of Phoenix and to sum it up in a nutshell. It is what you make it. The teachers are great and do alot to help you learn. I have been here 10 months so I do feel I can make a determination as to the education you get. If you think you are going to get out of school and go make alot of money as a mechanic you better do your homework. Mechanics do not make alot of money and it is not there fault. They are there to teach motorcycles not tell you how much you will make. I am doing it as a hobby not a carreer. I did that already so the school is teaching me what I came here for. It is recommended though if you want to learn how do mechanic period. Not make a fortune. It is not there job to get you a job. I noticed alot of reviews on this site and the ones that are downing the school do not even know to use a capital I when speaking of themselves. Go figure. I support the school and rules. I think the rules are good. All good schools need rules. Yes they need your money to operate so pay up if you want to go. It is a good school and the teachers are great.
Mmi of phoenix is a joke. Student services is an absolute nightmare. Good luck gettin things right with those idiots. I could spend all day talking about how they'll screw you over. Mmi didn't do anything but fax a resume to dealers and they call it job placment. . . They are not going to help you. After you graduate they have what they want. Your money and they wont give a damn about you. This was the biggest mistake of my life. If you have any bit of mechanical know how then don't go here because its a big waste of money and time. 99% of people work on their on bikes. The only thing the public wants are tire changes. I've been working by myself for three years. If its not tires. they need its an electrical problem which has been rigged up fubared. There is money to be made but not with dealers. Mmi does not teach the most imporant thing about being a tech and I'm not going to say it but mmi is a business in the business of getting your money.
I attended this school 5 years ago with the idea that i might make a career out of this industry and also make a decent living which is what this school makes you think is going to happen when you first arrive. The fact of the matter is that there is no Motorcycle mechanic jobs out there that are going to pay you more than 15.000 to maybe 18.000 a year which is no where near enough to support a family let alone even a single person comfortably you will struggle and you will never live a decent life.
And for those thinking they will open there own shop good luck more hassle than it's worth remember your working on someones toys not there necessities so they will only pay when they have the extra cash. So back to mmi now the schools instructors are great they help you out alot and know there stuff can't say enough about them but aside from that the whole school is terrible... so if your cool about being poor and struggling the rest of your life just so you can lIVE THE DREAM!!! as they will tell you then by all means go for it because the only dream your going to live is the dream of just being able to make it by and this goes not only for mmi but for any school like it there is no difference they all lie..
Don't fool yourself it's the money that keeps people working everyday at least get into a career that will keep your head above water because when you get your very first pay check from whatever dealer you start working for you will then realize that living the dream is actually a nightmare.....
MMI is a great school if you want to learn from the best got to MMI. They have all the resources from the manufactures. When it comes to Motorcycles MMI is second too none.
As i read through these reviews i can't help but think where these people went, as a current MMI student I can tell you what i notice 1. Campus is nice, parking is sketchy especially when class lets out, equipment and training aids could be somewhat better, but face it, they are torn down and rebuilt by students just like you so for the purpose they are for they work. 2. overall grade is not based off of just paper test (in theory classes yes it is) grading goes off of attendance, professionalism, lab work (majority of grade) and tests. 3. If you dont have any mechanical aptitude and just think working on cycles will be neat or fun... this is not a place for you... you have to be able to hold a wrench and know what it is for in order to have any type of clue. 4. the instructors are pretty cool, they will help you if you need it 5. i cant speak for student services and financial aid, however if you are a Vet they pre submit your tuition claim and amend it so you get your BAH on time. 6. the rules are a bit extreme, however think of what you want to do and the fact that if you screw up someone could lose their life
Overall i would say it is a good school, like any educational institution it is what you make of it, if you're there to show up and get the paper, good luck, if you are willing to learn and do things their way, it will work out. the only downfall is, if you have any experience it will get a little bit boring (mostly during theory) and having these young kids out of high school who screw around. just stay focused and you'll do fine
When it comes to employment, you are not guaranteed anything, if you want that job badly, you will set it up, be presentable, and go for it.
As someone mentioned previously the plethora of knowledge that flows out of this place is truly amazing. I was able to actually LOOK at something (in my field of study) and know what I was looking at just a few weeks into the program. The courses are taught by those who've actually been IN the field and/or own their own businesses in said field.
The drawbacks though, are that the school is run like some IVY LEAGUE private school. Many of the rules are RIDICULOUS - like not being able to leave without being penalyzed in some way or another. There is also the fact that you can't miss more than 10 hours per 3 week module.
You have to get HALL PASSES just to leave class and take a whizz - C'mon now! And to top all that off they make a HUGE fuss about you coming back late from breaks or using cell phones during class time - yet it's PERFECTLY fine for the HIGH SCHOOLERS (and there is PLENTY of these guys there) sit around EVERY exit and kill off EVERYONE with their cigarette smoke.