Bryant & Stratton College Reviews - Associate in Nursing
Review of Nursing Associate Degrees
I was 44 finally raised my children, quit my job, and ready to be able to solely focus on what I had waited to do my whole life! I drove 1 hr and 20min daily and even longer to clinical each way. Was on the deans list. Received attendance certificates regularly. Our DON change 3-4 times while I attended BS. In 3rd semester I got had an almost flat tire exiting the Hwy 5 miles from school, stopped filled it, got to school 6 min late on exam day was denied that exam. A fellow student was 5 min late but given the exam. The 0 for that exam literally caused me to flail that class by 1%. My grade prior was that strong. I just had to suck it up and move on. Knowing all instructors just rescheduled students for missed exams was protocol, and another student had been late didnt make a difference in my appeal. 4th semester my grandson born premature at less than 3 lbs a week old was having seizures and we didnt know if he would survive.I was at my clinical site my last day of clinicals. I asked my preceptor if I could start early so I might leave early and I would also call instructor to request same, she was fine with that. When instructor arrived she gave me permission to leave early and later said she did not and I was accused of leaving my clinical site early without permission and being academically dishonest That meant 2 failed nursing classes and I was dismissed from the nursing program 3 weeks prior to completing 4th semester. I academically passed everything, I got Level 3 on ATIs. The DON sat across from the table and said I was a liar! I showed up to a full 8 hours of my clinical knowing the condition of my first born, and only grandchild as I took my education seriously and knew other situations of fellow students with this school and my previous experience. I was not going to just walk out of a clinical site. The instructor did finally admit she had given me permission to leave when I had proof, she had accidentally emailed me her own personal notes where she had written down the events of that day. However, when presented that I was then cited with a violation of having my cellphone on my person, and using it at a clinical site! I did have it, and I only used it outside on my break to text my instructor. The preceptor actually had me give my daughter the direct number to the room I was working in so I could be called in case of an emergency! The worst part was that the preceptor would discuss her personal relationships etc and was not very professional and I was a little Leary to speak with my instructor as some of the staff there knew my instructor for many years. In the end the preceptor who should have been writing weekly evaluations and did not, then stated I had not requested to leave early, and a few other thing on my final evaluation unfavorable to me. Now if I was doing poorly I would think, I would not have been allowed to administer medications, etc on my own as I had been doing and she would have brought some of this to someones attention prior to 2 was after my last clinical day? It was a huge conspiracy of people at the clinical site trying to cover the instructor who allowed me to leave then lied for fear of being caught lying and when I could prove she lied BS had to save face to hold on to that instructor so they made up another reason. I recorded my meeting with them. They were insulting, rude, and demeaning. I have never had a group of people try so hard to belittle me in my life. I had instructors in every other class I had taken there supporting me and were disgusted by this whole situation, however also fearful of losing their jobs due to who was in charge of the nursing program at that time. I have the financial ability to obtain legal counsel to file a lawsuit, however I am not that person. Now BS calls me on a regular basis to ask if I would like to take the LPN program? Really? $30,000 is an expensive life lesson to learn how cruel and dishonest people are in this world. However, I chose not to be a disgusting person, I have paid the majority of it and I hold my head high and my conscious is clear because I know I didnt do wrong and I do have integrity, morals, and ethics.
The Nursing Program at Bryant & Stratton College in Eastlake OH is a joke. This school continuously and repeatedly "misplaces" student's sensitive personal information including transcripts, causing the student to have to pay out of pocket to replace it. The school did not have clinical instructors in place prior to the start of the semester, which caused several students to be set back in required clinical hours. When instructors were finally hired, they were not trained in the hospital setting, nor on the computer system used. If a student does choose to pursue the nursing program here, please be sure to get in the instructor's and the program directors good graces, because favoritism runs rampant here. A student that just happened to buy an instructor's house was afforded another opportunity to take a test that the rest of the student's did not. While "remediation" students for a math test, the program coordinator did not know the required formula. Nursing tutors fail out of the program. Class size drops by half from one semester to the next. One can attempt to get assistance from some of the instructors,and while they state that they offer it, they do not. Notes provided by some instructors do not correspond to what is being taught (as in referring to page numbers that were completely wrong), nothing is organized, the program director sends out emails regarding math testing to the wrong people, sends things months late..... the list sadly goes on. Oh yes, and the school is on provisional approval from the state board of nursing due to graduating students failing to pass the NCLEX-RN on the first attempt. All of this while collecting tens of thousands per student, while failing students by points, or fractions of points.
To start off this place is a joke. Teachers get excited about when they can fail students, and when you go to talk to the Dean she treats you as if you are 8 years old, dismisses you right away as if no one can talk bad about her staff. Also there is no one that is above her that you can talk too, even in New York they won't do anything. SO the Dean can do whatever she wants. This is the most unprofessional school that I have ever attended. Then was told that the LPN/LVN program was accredited when it is not. This school just lures people here so that they can get their money. And the commercial and everything says their schedule is flexible which is another lie. There are a few teachers that I have absolutely enjoyed and have learned a lot from but aside from that, like stated above, most of the teacher get their jollies from failing students. BUT if you kiss their butt they might let you pass.
This school is a waste of money. Their slogan "for every & in life" is bullshit. They tell you what you want to here to acquire your financial aid and out of pocket money and they have no intention on working with your schedule. I highly recommend ANYBODY not to come to this school. It's a waste of time and money. You have to teach yourself and your convenience is always disregarded. The teachers are very inconsiderate of any family crisis. They have unrealistic and almost impossible to obtain expectations. If you are a hands on type of person, this school is not for you. You have to teach yourself everything on your own time. Nobody answers your emails when you have legitimate questions or concerns that are time sensitive. Nor are they available when you show up in the office to inquire. None of the directors know their job in and out to be able to answer your questions and they always have to ask someone else for reassurance. Answers are half a** and inaacuarate at times. The whole experience was a waste. The only thing I'm learning is that sometimes it's better not to go the fast route or cut corners at all costs. It costs you more here to get nothing out of it.
The nursing program in the Milwaukee region is horrible. Do not waste your money here. The Dean of Nursing is an absolute joke, there was a student kicked out for blatantly using their cell phone on an exam. Guess who was cleared by the Dean to re-enter the program, yup that's right the same student who was caught outright cheating. All they care about is getting your money. They sell the program as being flexible but this is far from the truth. The nursing scheduling is done in blocks. You are able to submit a preference sheet, but you are at their mercy where you get placed and it is up to you to figure out how to make things work with childcare, a job, etc. Also, you often will not know your clinical site until a few days before it actually starts. When it comes to the instructors there are some good ones but with the majority it comes down to whether or not they like you. If they like you they will bend over backwards for you. If they don't they will make things as difficult as possible for you and set you up for failure. Good luck of the Dean of Nursing doesn't like you, she will advise the instructors to look for reasons to dock you points and to fail you. The ADN program lacks consistency, with the addition of many other programs these inconsistencies are likely not to be addressed. Save yourself the money, frustration, and stress. There are plenty of other programs in the area that will view you as a person rather than another dollar.
First off, I guess I didn't believe the Advisor when she told me that I wouldn't be able to work while attended the program. This college is horribly expensive and caters mostly to the right out of high school crowd. They say they cater to working families, but it simply isn't true. They schedule you into 'blocks' that don't necessarily work out for home/work/ school balance. Second, I have a hearing deficit. I didn't think it necessary at first to have an ADA counselor, but soon found that not to be true. After talking to the ADA counselor who is also the Dean of Nursing, nothing was done to accommodate me. I have filed complaints with the ADA (response pending). I was only able to check off on competencies using a SIM man. Being competent listening to a machine vs. a real human does not give me confidence that I will be able to go out into the world and apply my knowledge to real life situations. The professors were, for the most part, great. They all had something different to contribute to your education. The problem is that B&S treats them so poorly, that they can't retain any of them, so each new semester consists of a new professor trying to 'learn' what they need to teach us. I am switching schools, but after completely one semester, I am already way more in debt than I should be. Don't let the idea of finishing earlier than most schools entice you into attending this school It will just take you more time in the long run. Financial services is awful. They make mistakes they shouldn't, and average response time with my financial aid advisor was 1 1/2 weeks. Around the time you are supposed to clear for the next semester, that is absolutely horrendous.
I urge anyone going into the nursing program here reconsider. If I can prevent what happened to me from happening to even just one other person, this post did its job. I wanted to return to school to 1)increase my earning ability 2) to pick a profession I was passionate about 3) to be a good role model for my daughters. one morning as I was getting ready to rush off to work in administrative office for medical billing for the Medical College of WI, I saw a commercial on TV about Bryant and Stratton. A woman about my age talking about how a degree in nursing changed her life; how she never thought it possible but with Bryant and Stratton it was possible! My first mistake was believing something I saw on TV. Bryant and Stratton is a private for-profit career college that targets working adults looking to earn a degree in their "free time" quickly. I fell into the trap. Now don't get me wrong every degree they offer here is very possible as long as you put in the hard work and follow the syllabus. I know this because the first degree I earned from this school was a medical assisting degree. I wired hard for it but my instructors were there for me every step of the way to see me succeed. I finished with a 3.6 GPA and numerous academic achievement awards. It was a confidence building experience. So much so that I turned around right after graduation and re-enrolled in the nursing program. However nursing is a different beast altogether. It's governed by its own faculty separate from the rest of the school, Evan the Dean is different than all the other programs. This is because to be accredited by the state board of nursing requires only nurses to teach and govern the program. Right from the start, the very first day I noticed a dramatic difference in the attitude that faculty had with students. It was an atmosphere of inadequacy and incompetence toward the students. Anyway, I knew I would have to work hard and I did. I quit my job to keep up with the demands of the reading, endless reading of many resources every week. I isolated my friends and extended family. I only talked to my husband and two daughters. My bills mounted because of my reduced hours. I knew however, that I was learning a lot. I had many challenges (a lot more than in the MA program) but that's to be expected, nursing is tough. With all my hard work, sleepless nights spent studying and challenging clinicals I made it to the end of the program. I was finally less than a week, just days away from graduation. I needed a very specific grade on my final exam to pass but I was so prepared to do just that. The day of the exam came and I waited on pins and needles for my score, I needed a 75.6 to pass the course I received a 75.2 I immediately called my instructor begging for her to give me extra credit or anything to bump me up the 4/10 of a percent I needed to graduate. She refused, she told me to have some integrity and stop fighting for a grade I didn't earn. It wasn't just that I failed, it was that I failed and was offered zero support of what I could do with more than 60 credits toward a nursing degree. You see once you're released from a nursing program no other college will not take you as a student. So now I'm $30k in debt without a degree, job and piles of unpaid bills from not working. It's the darkest place to be. On top of it I had worked so hard, I have never worked so hard and put my entire self into something before. My point is if I was going to fail, if I didn't have what it takes to be a nurse it should have been recognized at the beginning of the program not the very end. Two weeks later I heard from a friend that the way the final exam was graded was inconsistent. Each question was worth 3.33 points however some papers mine included was graded with 3.3 for each question, this may not seem like a big deal but it was huge for me because it meant I passed!!!! I got 57 questions correct so if I was graded 3.33 that would put me at 75.9. I brought this to the Dean's attention and she completely. She wouldn't hear it. I feel like they've decided I would make a bad nurse despite the fact that I scored 97% on the NCLEX predictor!!! Anyway, I didn't get into the constant changing of instructors, it's a very high turn around for faculty so the courses are constantly being changed. Very disorganized and many instructors with a chip on their shoulders toward students. I wish I had gone yia different school because I truly believe I would be a nurse right now.
Go to a real college. Your credits will not transfer! The instructors lack the knowledge to educate sudents. Instructor messed up final by implementing incorrect answers.
I decided to go to Bryant & Stratton for Nursing because the program is about 5 semesters with immediate placement into the program of your choice as long as you pass the required tests to get in. My general studies were great, no problems. The Nursing program is a nightmare, the professors are above you and will not help you learn anything you don't automatically pick up. They say you can get help at their Learning Resource Center, but some of the best instructors have quit! It's only open Tuesday and Thursday! I have a minimal part time job and can still barely pass my science courses. The director of the science department has not been helpful either, she is very quick to judge you and will tell you everything you have not done right and offers zero insight into getting through the courses. I would never recommend this program to anyone. I hope that when I finish I have enough confidence left to be a great nurse after they strip it all away.
The nursing program should be an online course as the teacher are no help they don't know the material themselves. Lecture is reading off a power point with no more information to better understand the material being lectured on. If help is needed you are referred to another book to buy. The teacher have the attitude if you pass great if you don't oh well. What happened to teachers caring. These teacher should be certified to teach, know the material themselves, and have compassion for the students they are instructing. Do not go to this school they make the students feel they have no self worth.